Why the insistence that the USADA do the testing?

that could be the reason..but i will say the blood taken is very small..like a teaspoon..im sure even manny pac gets some bloody noses in sparring...if he does, i would say he loses more blood then that from any nose bleed.

 

So you'd be willing to lose 40 million dollars and risk destroying your reputation because of this? That's a worthless excuse and you know it. A few minutes of your time won't disrupt anything. Pacquiao did say he was willing to take random urine tests, but wouldn't that disrupt his training as well?

 

The question then is; has WADA developed adequate testing measures to detect HGH in the bloodstream (from blood testing) as opposed to urine testing?


I seem to remember 3rdIslander's posts. He's the closest thing we have to a proper expert on these forums, and he said that you can test for HGH from urine (I can't remember whether he said it was HGH itself or substances released during the metabolic pathways of HGH from body -> urine).


Which would sort of make all this rubbish about thorough testing a moot point, really. The only thing I can see wrong with urine testing from that point on would be that maybe Manny uses someone else's **** sample/tampers with it (as possibly does May, let's not forget). So they'd have to ensure, ahem, the validity of the sample :****.

 

Why is it people keeps on bringing up the millions? Can people not grasp that their are boxers out there that are filthy rich already and money is not what drives them? Pac wants to fight and not just fight but win. He doesn't want anything distracting him from his training to achieve this. He has conceded to the test but doesn't want the intrusive blood work to interfere with his preparation. The same intrusive test that every major professional sports in the US have refuse to take.

 

well other testing agencies are no better...i would say the best thing would be urine and blood tests... "which i think olympic style testing does anyhow?

 

Urine tests are vastly different from blood tests.
I have had a ton of blood tests when I was in the navy, your diet and actions for that day are altered.
I have seen people faint from giving a vile of blood in boot camp and in the medical clinics.
Urine is expelled naturally, blood is drawn unnaturally.
I have seen grown men act like girls when getting blood drawn. Grown men with tattoos.

 

well i think it is the best possible...and lets say...just say..pac is on steroids..even if his team could still cycle around the Olympic tests, it would be harder..and he would most likely have to use less banned substance, and have more time off from them...

 

You truly underestimate the drug testing in the olyimpics, and modern medicine. Unless you are some sort of scientist, you really don't know shite other than posting someone elses opinion on this matter. Sorry, but if I think that my opponent is on something...I have every right to negotiate that the both of us undergo testing to make sure that neither of us has any physical advantages... Floyd never suspected any of his opponents of cheating except PAc, and that's why he asked for that type of test...

 

Are you a PAc fan?

 

I like both fighters, but I definitely prefer the guy willing to fight.
I have followed Floyd and Manny for years, I watch both of them every time they fight.

 

I know both test are different, as I have had both on multiple occasions. Did you see the video of Pacquiao getting a blood test that was posted on this site? What about all the tattoos he has? I doubt blood test bother him too much. Blood is also drawn unnaturally in boxing matches and that never bothered Pacquiao either. He should just take the random tests if he's clean.

 

Willing to fight lol... Both are willing to fight only one is not agreeing with the method of testing, and when the testing should be done. Both want to make in excess of up to 20-30 mil so don't give me that bull about which one YOU think is willing to fight. I'd fight Floyd or Pac for a new pair of Wally's lol...