Why Usyk will beat Fury

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    A great big man beats a great little man. That is true. But a magnificent little man beats a great big man. Usyk is, by some distance, the best p4p fighter of his era and this generation. The truth is, simply this, nobody is even as close to as good as this man is at boxing right now. You have to go all the way back to a prime Pacquiao and Mayweather to find a fighter on his level.

    He has too much speed for this man. He has way too much skill for Fury. And if you think Fury is just going to deck him, well you thought wrong. Usyk has the better chin.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I've said it from day one and no point in changing my mind now - Usyk will be an easy night's work for Fury.

    That said, it doesn't matter, nobody will ever be "right". This fight won't happen.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    YDKSAB
     
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  4. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury will just tie him up all the time. He's too big. I don't think Fury will destroy him, but i do think it'll be a boring fight with Fury winning on points. It'll be a technical fight with Fury just popping him off from the outside and then tying him up on the inside. I don't think Fury will release that many punches due to fear of getting countered, so he'll just pop him off with that 85 inch reach.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk will be busy setting traps.
     
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  6. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can only set traps if the other boxer throws countless of punches. Tyson will just jab, jab, jab. What trap can you set up with that? In the end it'll have to be Usyk that'll have to come forward to get the points, and it'll be Fury that'l be setting up the traps. Truth is this, Fury has shown he's the one that adapts and dominates in the end. I don't think Usyk is a smarter boxer than Fury. It's a case of a great smaller boxer gets beat by a great bigger boxer. Fury has many dimensions to his boxing game.
     
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  7. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

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    Would love to see Usyk win.
     
  8. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    But but Usyk is coming for u Tyson .. run :lol:.. you were all laughing at him a couple of years ago for the Chisora fight and now that he beat Herman Munster he's going to dethrone Tyson.. keep the faith LMAO
     
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Fury's biggest issue here is sharing the ring for the first time with a boxer who moves better than he does. Yes, Fury could try to clinch and maul his way to a scrappy win but he's got to get the fight into the clinch in the first place - and against a fighter who moves better, this isn't a given. And even when he does, Usyk's technique in the clinch is exceptional, turning his shoulder into the opponent and bracing with his legs to negate the difference in size and strength.

    Usyk's jab to the body will be a big factor too - it's spiteful and energy-sapping - as is the fact he's a elite southpaw rather than an average one like Wallin or - as in the case of the first round last night - a brawler doing an impression of a boxer, doing an impression of a southpaw.

    If Fury can't make it into a wrestling contest and he can't find a way of being effective against a southpaw, we than have to look to the battle of the jabs. Fury's is longer and very effective but Usyk feints brilliantly to disrupt the timing of an opponent's jab and bats it away to create hesitancy and an opening for the jab to the body he employs so well.

    For all of Fury's advantages, Usyk has the tools to neutralise them. This might not roadmap a win but it makes the contest credible...
     
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  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree completely.. Actually only if you take "Mayweather" out the post
     
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  11. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury wouldn’t put himself in range to be hit, the only way he gets hit much against someone that height is if he backs up, if Fury decides to box on the back foot for whatever reason, I could see Fury getting caught with that wide left hand as he tries to step off the ropes, but Fury will box on the front foot cautiously, he won’t step far in enough for Usyk to land consistently, he will jab, jab occasional right hand and will maul him in the clinch, Fury uses his physical advantages well enough to nullify what Usyk does better, someone coming forward against Fury can close distance and lane when he’s on the ropes, but if Fury’s coming forward with that height and reach what he has, he controls everything, because he’s never getting pinned in the corner and they can’t close distance, back him up on the ropes, they throw he takes a small step back, then they’re back to being on the back foot, you can’t close distance the same way if you were coming forward, like when Klitschko fought Haye
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know what's funny about all this Usyk Fury stuff? The Fury guys are just assuming that Fury will regularly land on Usyk. I see Fury getting outworked.
     
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  13. Devon

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    I don’t think either of them will get hit clean often, Usyk will be on the back foot for sure and the problem with being shorter and trying to fight off the back foot, you have to rely on the bigger fighter making a bad mistake, leaning right into range because you can’t push yourself forward into range, you’re relying on them to put themselves into range and Fury isn’t that stupid, Usyk throws, but because he’s doing it from the back foot, he’s well out of range and he’s not pinning Fury on the ropes and pushing him back because he isn’t big enough, if Usyk was even Wallin’s size, I’d probably be torn because he’d be able to back Fury up and his skills would be a lot more effective, but he just won’t be able to box going forward, he will simply be out of range most of the time when he throws and Fury will be able to dictate the pace, Usyk was able to box off the back foot against Joshua because Joshua is stiff, a lot slower footed than Fury and they weren’t abnormally different in height, and Joshua was falling for the traps, leaning in, then Usyk would throw a 4 punch combination and Joshua would lean too far out without his feet and just get hit, Fury’s a lot more co-ordinated than Joshua
     
  14. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk does not have enough power to hurt much less KO Fury and will be at reach disadvantage
    and if you can't hit you can't score. Waving your arms and jerking around won't win rounds.
    If Fury lands flush he might KO Usyk but will at least win a wide UD.
    Fury wins, there isn't a viable, logical road to victory for Usyk.
    And this Usyk fanboy love thing is kinda creepy.
     
  15. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    People are too high on Usyk

    Fury is not AJ

    Usyk's entire style relies on draw and counter to beat Fury but Fury's dimensions are so vast he can't pull it off like he did against AJ.

    Usyk has already achieved all he needs to in boxing. He wouldn't have come to HW if that golden goose wasn't a free meal ticket for him. Usyk is only now seriously thinking about Fury but he knows even in the AJ rematch he has a lot of work to do.

    Fury has a couple of months now to decided if he wants to fight the Usyk AJ winner...and can happily prepare for that.

    Fury's motivation to fight AJ is at rock bottom, it's consensus now that Fury whoops that butt where as before Fury knew he had to prove it to the people.