Why Ward didn't fight Dawson at 175?

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  1. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would have then been champion in two weight class. His recognition as a p4p would have been then greater. Instead, he jumped on the occasion when Dawson said the fight could be fought at 168 (right after the Dawson'S fight) and when Dawson tried to back pedale, Ward answer was "no no", 168 is just fine, just like you said Chad.

    Instead of going for glory, he preferred to just drain Dawson. After ducking Bute right after the S6, he took again the easy road. The guy doesn't want to go to England and fight Froch right now. Ward needs to step up because he is getting a bad reputation.
     
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  2. Raider Rudy

    Raider Rudy Active Member Full Member

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    He knew he had to weight drain Dawson to win the fight, so it was at 168:tired
     
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  3. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dawson is the one who called ward. dawson the one who he will got 168 no problem. its dawsons fault
     
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  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    another gay ass ****ing thread. how original ***gots
     
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  5. kingmiller8282

    kingmiller8282 Active Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  6. Thracian

    Thracian Active Member Full Member

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    Someone should check this, but I remember Dawson talking about easily making 168 on more than one occasion.

    Ward did what was smart. Sugar Ray Leonard waited YEARS until Hagler looked like **** against Mugabi before fighting him.

    Oscar De La Hoya fought Bernard Hopkins at a catchweight of 158 lbs.

    If you're the bigger name, and can command more money, why not stack the deck in your favor? In this case, Dawson agreed to the fight and Ward got a great win, period.
     
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  7. blacksupreme504

    blacksupreme504 New Member Full Member

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    Ward would have whooped Dawson at 175. But since Dawson called him out at 168, he punished him.
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed, but at the same time, Andre probably should have publicly came out and said he would change it to 175 if Dawson wanted immediately after Froch bludgeoned Bute.

    Ward in all likelihood beats Dawson at ANY weight, and if he ventured to '75 when Froch took care of the only unfinished business left at '68, he would have exhibited a display of true championship materials. Not to mention, he'd be getting far more credit for the victory. Too many critics, and other observers, are writing that one off because Chad was "weight drained".

    I don't see it that way.

    But the over all perception of Ward would certainly be greater had he made that PR move of sorts, especially following The Cobra's destruction of Bute.
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    ...because Ward was the draw.
     
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  10. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is Ward always criticised? He is young, undefeated and #1 at SMW. His resume is also pretty impressive.
     
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  11. forreal

    forreal Chin doctor Full Member

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    Because he is hiding in jokeland with his personal refs, and on top of that he was glad to drag the LHW lineal champion down 7 lbs.
     
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  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Wards failure to do this, and his reluctance to leave Oakie, are somewhat puzzling. He's geniuine p4p. He should come to the UK and school Carl again. Even if he gets robbed, he'll have silenced (a lot of) the critics
     
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  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Why move up to a dead division for someone desperate?, the reason Dawson moved down is because he had no names in his division worth considering. Only an idiot would say that Ward should move up to a trash division to fight Dawson(who isn't a name anyway).
     
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  14. macalpinerules

    macalpinerules Active Member Full Member

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    Dawson was the one who wanted this fight. As Ward said on HBO boxing "I was on my couch minding my own business"
     
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  15. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bingo . ward accepted his challenge.
     
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