Why Ward SHOULD go to Nottingham - Early Pac-Floyd Prediction (Video)

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bute's days are over t the top level. He was a fraud just like a few of those canadian fighters who stepped up against top comp. All Bute had to do was beat Froch and he got wasted inside 4 rounds. Why are you even talking?
     
  2. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Now that's what happened. Your words didn't coincide with the interviews.:lol:

    But this is a Ward-Froch thread. Where's the relevance? Oh, you're trying to knock Ward I guess. :lol:
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fraud rhymes with Ward? Really? So what you got a prediction right. So the fuk what lol... You've been wrong before mofo.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I watched the vid Rummy,...excellent job! Thank you!:good
     
  5. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair comment, and yes i was perfectly aware that a lot of what you posted was tongue in cheek, but you were clearly siding with Nard ( as you've explained ).

    And yes i do think its hypocritical to rubbish a fighter, and then big them up after they prove you wrong.

    I'm not rubbishing Kovalevs win over Nard, but at some point age would be the deciding factor in one of his fights, and this was for me that fight. Hopkins seemed slow of foot, and his reactions and timing way off. Kovalev can only beat the man in front of him, but i do believe the Hopkins of 5 years ago would have out fought and out thought him. As bad as Hopkins was, he still got Kovalevs attention everytime he landed.

    On the topic of Ward, he's clearly a talented fighter, but his massive ego and feelings of self entitlement are laughable. At the end of the day, this is a man who's biggest win is Froch, he isn't at all fan friendly, has a very limited fanbase, is virtually unknown to casuals, is unable to sell himself to TV, and has been inacative for the best part of 2 years. Yet he see's himself as the draw and thinks he should get the lions share and all the bargaining power ?

    He's a Fraud and a Hypocrite, if he's the best then fight the best ( clearly dodged Bute ) if he's in it for money, then either make himself more marketable, or get down off his high horse, go to Nottingham, beat froch, then go look for the biggest challenges with the biggest paydays.

    Rant Over
     
  6. RagamuffinMan

    RagamuffinMan Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, Ward should go to Nottingham and finish Froch off.

    The reason is as good as any on the planet for a boxing match:

    To save the acting and film world from Froch.
     
  7. AnotherFan

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    Yes. That's what boxing champs do within boxing. They fight their challengers. They don't delegate fights.

    Bute stated he wanted to fight Ward and that he was prepared to fight outside Canada. Ward answered that he instead would "sit back" and that Bute had to fight one or two top opponents, starting with Wards leftover Carl Froch.

    Instead of fighting Bute Ward delegated the fight.

    I'm not the one that will be embarressed if we have a closer look at this.

    That's the reason you give. The reason Ward gave is the one I outline above.

    Everything you stated so far has been wrong or at least not possible to confirm by available sources.

    Right ...

    Why would Carl Froch be done, shortly after he had reached the S6 final, fought well but lost against a better opponent? Did Froch seem shot to you?

    Why would Bute try to cherrypick after first go after the best and most accomplished SMW in the world, namely Andre Ward?

    How do you know what went on inside Butes head? Are you a mindreader?

    As you and everyone else who reads this thread can see, you don't make any sense :smoke

    Ward refused to fight Bute, and that's a flat out duck.
     
  8. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because I don't think it's resonable that the top dog at SMW gets a pass for ducking a unification fight.
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Reading these comments that Ward ducked the likes of Bute :lol:

    He's beaten twice the better boxers ! Bute was nothing more that a glorified belt holder who got exposed the minute he stepped up ..Ward ducked this guy :rofl
     
  10. AnotherFan

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    It's quite strange that a unification fight in hindsight is considered "not good enough" for Ward.

    The thing is, Bute wasn't exposed until AFTER Ward had ducked him.

    Wards own opinion, before he had won S6, was that the winner ought to fight Bute and unify.

    People are making excuses for Ward. I'm not sure why, tbh.
     
  11. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My comments perfectly coincided and then I posted links to back it up.

    I said Ward had an obvious path to greatness unify the titles and reign. He did neither he didn't fight Bute and dropped his WBC title instead of fighting Anthony Dirrel. You said I was wrong about it and I just posted links to prove my case of him dropping his title it perfectly coincides but you said it didn't happen the way I said it did BUT IT DID AND I PROVED IT! It's knocking Ward? Really the truth is knocking the fighter? That's Wards fault. He could of unified the titles and reigned over the division but instead didn't he chose NOT to unify and then dropped a title this guy ruins his career and may be the most talented fighter in the game but your cool with that obviously. He shouldn't be back where he was 3-4 years ago with a fight with Froch.
     
  12. Moanamchara

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    I thinks it's more of Ward had a path to greatness and didn't take it. He could of unified and reigned over the division but he chose not to. He didn't fight Bute to unify then dropped his WBC belt because he didn't want to fight Anthony Dirrel IDK if he thought he was too good for them or whatever but you prove your greatness by the fights you do take not the fights everyone says you would win. He shouldn't be back to where he was 3-4 years ago with a fight with Froch he should have every damn belt and be reigning over the division or moving up and making noise he's that good but hasn't lived up to his potential.

    He's been trying to make fights with Sartison, LHW Oostuivien, and Perbian when he could of made a big statement showing the only reason Froch has been in charge is because he has been inactive by dismantling him in his hometown. It would of been great and then he could be looking to unify the other titles but in reality he wants to fight irrelevant fighters in Oakland and has stated he won't fight the Dirrel brothers. If both Dirrel brothers are champs and AA owns the other belt Froch is the last big payday for him and the last title he will get at SMW.
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

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    Guys, we're just arguing now. Bute got exposed, and Froch won't rematch Ward. The list of fighters that Ward has ducked is Anthony Dirrell and Bute. The list seems to be growing as of recent lol. What's disgusting about this is that you're all really just protecting the boxers that you like. New school minded.

    I'm not a fan of Ward, I just respect him. You guys won't change my mind. It's futile. I hope that Bute can become a better fighter, and that Froch truly does rematch Ward.

    Froch went from being a guy I despised to a one of my favorite top 10 fighters to watch out of todays fighters. Money isn't everything, and legacy, truth, and common sense has been put on the back burner on this topic. I'm done with this topic.

    Who beat who is how I will speak on this topic in future threads and speculation will be used in matchups that will happen.

    Have fun on this topic. Rummy, keep up the good work!
     
  14. AnotherFan

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    Oh well. Maybe the Ward-bashing is getting a bit old, even if it's enlightening ESB-members. Guess I'll just wait and see how his fight the 20th of May plays out.

    Honestly, I believe the relevant players are at MW and LHW right now. Not to mention Floyd vs Pac.
     
  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Some spot on posts in here

    Bliizzy you got to be trolling