Why was Duran not labelled a quitter?

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  1. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Duran quit against Leonard in there rematch. He wasn’t even pulled out he literally just said “no mas” and yet he is known as one of the most gutsy fighters in history. Whilst fighters who were pulled out by there corners for serious injuries are labelled quitters.
     
  2. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. Full Member

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    Because that wasnt the only fight in his career.
     
  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    It's hard to label him a quitter if he only did it one time, in every other fight in his career Duran was the complete opposite of a quitter.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    One instance in something like 120 fights isn’t enough to make a label
     
  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Angelo Dundee
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran was labeled a quitter. He had tax-exempt status in Panama before the Leonard rematch and the leaders of his country were so ashamed of him they revoked it. I remember a whole Sports Illustrated feature (I believe) on how the people at home all but banished him.

    He was labeled a quitter when he quit against Pat Lawlor, too, on the Tyson-Ruddock undercard. By that point, people were just embarrassed by him.

    But fans who came along in the years since just choose to ignore it.

    Selective memory.
     
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  7. Freddy Benson.

    Freddy Benson. Active Member Full Member

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    He was. Have you looked into the backlash Duran faced? If not, perhaps do so.
     
  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Eh, that's debatable. How many times has Duran changed his story about the No Mas fight?
     
  9. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah thats true. You only have to look at some of the duran v Leonard 2 threads here to see how fans today see things differently from when it happened with some going as far as discrediting Leonard’s win rather than saying Duran quit cos Leonard was humiliating him. Saying things like Leonard was lucky that Duran was weight drained an he would have lost if Duran wasn’t partying non stop instead of training for the fight. Ha ha
     
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  10. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As others have said, he WAS vilified for it. In Panama, the U.S., everywhere. Who's saying he wasn't? Odd question.
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Labelling Duran a quitter based on ONE fight, whilst ignoring all his gutsy performances otherwise, is a far more glaring example of selective memory.

    Some fans shouldn’t live so vicariously through their favourite fighters or sit in such high judgment - finding it all too easy to pull the plug on a long career that exemplified guts and determination otherwise.
     
  12. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Beat me to it.
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What isn't debatable is that Dundee is reported as having stated that which was quoted in my previous post, during the media frenzy after the bout. And, in reference to the OP, it would seem clear that, according to Dundee, Duran was being called out as a quitter.

    At the same time Dundee was aware of why Duran did what he did - paying respect to him and advocating for Duran's explanation. Not that this helped at the time since Duran was decimated by the press while, at the same time, losing his trainer, manager and promoter.

    Nonetheless, I think Dundee's stance back then reflects what is largely the perception of Duran today, in that he was able, with the minimum of diehard support, to stay at it, rekindle his wider appeal and redeem himself.

    Whilst New Orleans 1980 will not be forgotten, Duran has, in the main, been forgiven - with the event itself being allowed to fade to gray.
     
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