Why was Golovkin so tentative at the start?

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  1. REKX_

    REKX_ New Member banned Full Member

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    If anyone hadn't watched boxing for years, they would have thought GGG was a 40 year old man at the end of his career. But we saw him fight Murata and maintain his general style throughout the whole match.

    What's strange is he fought Alvarez twice, he knows exactly what he needed to do. He won the first fight in many people's eyes. Why did he go into hiding for 8 rounds?

    His style of coming forward, taking a punch and then connecting with a couple of punches himself is tried and tested and it worked very well against Alvarez. I don't understand why he stood so far back on the outside for 8 rounds - that's not how GGG became a great boxer.

    If he maintained his normal game plan from, say, the second or third round onwards, he probably would have won. There's no stamina issue, he looked fine against Murata and he looks like he's got about another 2 or so years left at this level.

    Anyone have any reasons why GGG was so tentative in the first 8 rounds?
     
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  2. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Because he wasn't trying. Some contractual arrangement.

    Elite jabber with an elite chin, who battered a gold medalist the fight prior with said jab is too scared to throw any hard jabs / jabs with intent for the first 8 rounds.

    Dodgy stuff boxing
     
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  3. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

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    Scared of Canelo’s power
     
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  4. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    A bit like how you often said Kovalev pulled his punches vs Canelo?
     
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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    cause punches to the mouth hurt.
     
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  6. REKX_

    REKX_ New Member banned Full Member

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    The same power he experienced and handled very well in his previous fights?
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Was trying the Bivol pawing jab gameplan

    Difference is Bivol's pawing jab with Canelo walking into it is effective offence

    GGG having to pull his jab barely touching Canelo does nothing

    GGG had two options, walk headfirst into a fire knowing full well he wouldn't come out alive (unlike his younger self who did and was victorious) or try and win some miraculous decision, maybe find a Marquez Pacquiao punch.

    It was rather funny seeing it quickly turn into an unspoken unwritten agreement to be a sparring contest.

    Canelo not going to the body early is the only thing I don't understand. I didn't really care to work it out either and I was watching on my phone in 240p.
     
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  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Similarly, Kovalev didn't throw any punches with intent, at all. Age & a short camp does not stop a fighter from doing something as basic as fully extend on.all his punches, throughout the fight.
     
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  9. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't want to commit as that would open him up to being countered

    Too focused on trying to not get knocked down and simply surviving, rather than trying to win

    Starting from the ninth round, he only let his hands go because Canelo's terrible gas tank had almost run dry which offered openings for GGG

    The whole event was a sparring match, simply awful. At £20 I feel ripped off, I can't imagine how Americans who paid $85 feel
     
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  10. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Yeah I know that's what you think, you've said as much many times before...
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He wasn't anywhere near as tentative as Clenelo has been for the last four years in trying to find his pen

    Imagine raiding the care home for an opponent and then being terrified of going anywhere near them again until they've been laid low in the graveyard?

    That's what I'm taking about
     
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  12. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A sense of humor is a great coping mechanism. lol
     
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  13. IsaL

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    Canelo's style makes most of his aggressive opponents very gun shy.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It is but I don't need to cope. Prior to last night a well past prime/shot senior citizen GGG was 2-0 against a juiced to hell prime Clenelo on the vast majority of people's cards and an inactive shot beyond belief geriatric slow, flabby cadaver GGG just scored a huge event win over a prime Clenelo last night by lasting the distance against him despite being old enough to be his father and suffering a broken rib and right hand during camp.

    Clenelo couldn't even wobble the old man.

    Can you imagine what a prime GGG would've done to any version of Clenelo let alone a 35-40 y/o one?

    Or what about a prime juiced GGG?

    GGG would get arrested for legal homicide against a 40 y/0 shell of him
     
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  15. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Shredded lol he looked like a holocaust survivor who was allowed to work out
     
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