Why was Joshuas first match with Ruiz stopped ? He was still on his feet

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  1. Oncee

    Oncee New Member Full Member

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    and telling the referee he wanted to continue to fight ? When the fight was stopped Joshua looked frustrated
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Clearly this is a troll thread. He looked frustrated because he was badly concussed and didn't know where the hell he was. AJ's negative body language was horrendous, and was screaming out I do not want to be here anymore, please save me... he practically did everything but drop to his knees and beg the ref to stop the fight.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody stopped him he quit
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone can see he quit, and that he was badly concussed.

    He never recovered from the first knock down.
     
  5. Kiwi Fish

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    Joshua was indicating with his body language that he didn't want to continue so the ref stopped it.

    I think Joshua was used to having friendly refs who'd give him a bit of leeway, so he was trying to squeeze some extra recovery time but the ref called his bluff and waved it off.

    I think it was the Parker fight(?) Where Parker hit Joshua in the head and Joshua looked at the ref and complained and the ref told Parker off, for an example of Joshua used to the refs being nice to him
     
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  6. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People might wonder why Jack Reiss gave Fury every chance to continue despite looking out for a few seconds on the canvas yet AJ was waved off while on his feet.

    The answer is that the refs are looking for signs that the fighter is willing and able to continue after being hurt. And Jack saw that Fury was keen to keep trying (eye contact, nodding, trying to win the ref's approval on his feet) while the other ref saw that AJ was not enthusiastic about continuing (spat his mouthpiece out and was walking away, unresponsive to the ref who was talking to him). All fighters know they must convince the ref they are keen to keep fighting.

    AJ found himself in a similar position to Monroe in the Golovkin fight. Monroe wanted out and got up slowly, actually trying to 'just' lose the count. But funnily enough the ref wouldn't count him out and Monroe eventually had to admit he was quitting. AJ came just short of that but it was the same thing, he wanted out and wanted the ref to do it.

    In troof the reason AJ ended up in that position of needing to quit his way out the fight is because his chin isn't actually that bad (simply because he's huge, it's still not great for his size) and because Ruiz has low power at HW. So instead of Ruiz being able to cleanly stop him, AJ just kept getting up able to continue. So in the end he had to look for a way out himself.
     
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  7. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Ref was being extra generous to him, and gave him time to recover - part of the script.

    AJ's eyes were glassed up. He was done, was getting knocked down all over the place whilst concussed.
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He was done. Wouldn't say he quit but he was concussed and looked it.
     
  9. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he quit, not in his words, but his actions
    The above post nailed it
     
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  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The ref deemed him unable to continue and stopped the fight. Pretty normal stoppage looking at the fact that Ruiz mopped the floor with AJ 4 times at that point. Joshua looked out of it even tho he said he wanted to fight.
     
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  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clown troll threads like this will always bring out the clowns.

    AJ didn't quit, if he did he wouldn't have kept getting up.

    He wasn't asking the ref to save him, he wasn't being arrogant or anything like that.

    He was concussed and all his head or body knew was to get back up and keep going. He had nothing left the ref gave him every chance to get his wits about him. But the body and brains n were not on the same wavelength.
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    After all these years this stupid ass comment infuriates me. How? How did he quit?
     
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  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Body language
    You don't need to verbally quit

    It's similar to someone wanting to be held back, while pretending they want to fight
    His ego wouldn't utter the words, but he wasn't following instructions and he didn't put up any protest. Watch Vitali's reaction vs Lewis in contrast

    Joshua was looking out of there
     
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  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cause he was beat the f up like he stole something, lol.
     
  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know he was beat up, but he quit with his actions other fighters get beat up and don't react like that