WHY was Kessler so Highly Rated?

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  1. ChuckYoungblood

    ChuckYoungblood Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yesterday I was on the way home when I saw this brand new huge sized Heineken bottle, I had to buy it and drink. Are you drunk as well?
     
  3. Krisv1

    Krisv1 Member Full Member

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    AMsterdam.....you base your opinion of Pavlik losing to Adnrade and Mundine on assumption. I am basing Mikkell over hyped Kessler record on fact. Hes a fraud if you call him a great fighter/. He is merley an average champion, no better p4p than an Oscar Larios.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Actually, since I'm such a hardcore fan of boxing, I study it frequently and analyse fighters, I don't just watch them for fun, I analyse them to the finest details and this had made a pretty decent fight predictor, not the best, but normally accurate.

    In analysing Mikkel Kessler, I have found that he's an excellent fighter, not a GREAT fighter(hasn't accomplished enough), but an excellent one with potential to be a great fighter if he accomplishes enough.

    And for you to suggest that Calzaghe is a hype job is idiocy, Calzaghe's easily one of the best fighters of this generation.
     
  5. Krisv1

    Krisv1 Member Full Member

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    Cazlaghe one of the best fighters of this generation??????

    Based on what? Tell me one great fighter on his resume? you just admitted kessler wasnt great, so you cant use him.

    To be recognised as a great fighter, you surely have to beat Great fighter.
     
  6. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Eubank. Legend!
     
  7. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Are you by any chance a B Hop fanboy ?
     
  8. Unstoppable

    Unstoppable New Member Full Member

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    Kris can't be a bhopper.
    If he were, he would be talking JC up so Bhop can get the thrashing he will on april 19th without losing too much face.

    If anything, I would call him a Taylor fan..

    At any rate, I would like to hear your thoughts, Kris, on the possibility that JC takes out Bhop. how will that make guys like Kessler, Taylor and Pavlik look?
    Also, how do they look, if Kessler takes out Miranda?
     
  9. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    This shows the quality of your opinion right there.

    Pavlick fought one p4p in Taylor who most people agree was overhyped and benefited from some help in the decisions, and at best he was low p4p anyway. Before Taylor he fought Miranda, who is the only other notable name on his resume and he's hardly a legend. The fact that you give Pavlick this massive amount of credit while bashing Calzaghe and Kessler just shows your extreme bias and makes your opinion worthless.
     
  10. Andrew Wake

    Andrew Wake BOXING VIP Full Member

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    This is a stupid thread, started by someone who knows nothing about boxing.

    This muppet needs to learn that a boxers ability is not based on his resume but by watching him and observing his skills. Kessler is a talented fighter with good power and a decent chin. He'd also have the beating of anyone between 160 & 175 pounds, except Calzaghe.

    It this same old story. Any non - American fighter that is better than his American contempories (who I might add are fearful of fighting him) is dubbed a fraud.

    If Kessler is so bad, then why are Taylor and Pavlik avoiding fights with him? Mikkel was in America last month looking for a fight with Taylor but old "poor intentions" did his disappearing act again like he did when Calzaghe challenged him last year.
     
  11. Unstoppable

    Unstoppable New Member Full Member

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    in all fairness, Kessler is a risk/reward nightmare. If I were Taylor I wouldn't fight him either.
    Lose/lose situation for Taylor.
    Not necessarily a sign that the man is scared.

    Maybe if Kessler beats Miranda and gets some recognition in the States, Taylor will look at the fight with more interest. It's all about the dough.
     
  12. Unstoppable

    Unstoppable New Member Full Member

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    Oh and Kris...

    You ask; "why was kessler so highly rated?"

    The answer is: He still is:)
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Taylor and his crew wanted nothing to do with Calzaghe, why would they want it with a similiar danger and a lesser payday in Kessler?

    Taylor is pumped to be a throw back who always fights the best, easy to do in a poor division where the good fighters are either aged or limited. In a division where half of the top 10 can easily knock you out for smaller purses, it becomes less of the case.

    People are just going to have to accept that the majority of the SMW-LHW crop are just a bit more potent than an ancient Hopkins and Winky as challenges for big MW's like Taylor and Pavlik.
     
  14. Krisv1

    Krisv1 Member Full Member

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    I never qat 1 point stated Kessler was a bad fighter, just pointed out to the blind in here he is an extremly over rated prodcut of the media. His accomplishment never warranted hype.

    Oh I am not a B-Hop fan, but I do expect him to defeat the biggest fraud this side of the Ocean. Calzaghe is an excellent fighter, but no way in hell a great fighter.
     
  15. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    roy jones' next fight is meant to be against beyer lol. he went to germany to watch him fight last week. plus u mentioned miranda but he won most of his fights in columbia knocking out nobody's and they were not B fighters they were bums who had little or no record, definately no substnace. he lost his 2 real challenges.