Why Was Mayweather Weighing Two Pounds Heavier Than JMM A Big Deal

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  1. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd knew he was going to come in overweight all along.

    "The weight is made i'm comfortable, i'm happy. I'm actually wright were I need to be wright now if the fight was today".

    Start at 5:30

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  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whether it would work doesn't matter; what matters is that Arum would try it anyways.

    When Floyd shoots it down, Arum would use dropping that as leverage to try and get Mayweather to drop one of the demands that Top Rank viewed as unreasonable or wanted an advantage on.

    Considering it's Bob, I'm sure he'll probably use Floyd's lack of fight night weights as evidence for a negotiating ploy now that it's becoming a habit. :lol:
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    the weight had nothing to do with this fight

    floyd one by using the little mans game of speed

    if floyd had clinched a lot and layed on him and wrestled and tired him out like that then id say bs

    but he won with foot speed and hand speed something that usually benefits the guy moving up in weight

    plus it was a tune up second it was his first fight after a lay off and third he made it look really easy
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It goes beyond this. I guess many people don't remember, but through out the entire promotion, Mayweather's people refused to say what the weight limit was and continued to simply label it as a WW fight. At one point they said it was going to be a guess weight and that people would find out at the weight in what the weight was. I guess they weren't playing around about that.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You're probably right. I guess nothing should surprise anyone regarding the negotiation of this fight.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch You don't understand....that's where you should have stopped. What you fail to grasp is, they were contracted to meet at a 144 limit. JMM made it, Floyd didn't even try. That's the outrage.
     
  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    So essentially because at his heaviest PBF weighed 3 lbs more than Manny will, it justifies him being considered two weight classes above JMM yet because he's three pounds less Manny and JMM are essentially the "same size". We are talking about 3 pounds difference here, my point is simple, if you are going to discredit PBF beating the living dog **** out of JMM based on him being bigger etc, then you have to discredit Manny the same way. Or if you are going to try and give Manny credit and justify this as being a legit fight, then you have to give PBF the same credit. Personally I think it's a mismatch at this weight and have said so from the jump, I base much of that on the ease in which PBF beat JMM. All I'm suggesting is some consistancy in logic.
     
  8. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    By that logic I have my doubts about Manny weighing 148.5 on fight night against Tony...how exactly does that work, you can only go by the reported weights, I mean the man weighed 152, what do you base this assumption that he weighed 155 on? You can visually see a 3 pound difference in the man...come on dawg, you aren't being real now.
     
  10. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the issue... It's Floyd/Pac... It will ALWAYS be a two sided arguement. Floyd was wrong for coming in the ring 2 pounds heavier than agreed, but it made NO difference. And it's quite sad to see how they justify this fight with Pac. Dude has to eat a **** load to keep his weight on, which would lead you to believe he could fight at a lower weight, but somehow making JMM come up in weight is supposed to make it 'fair'.
     
  11. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    His name is "Money" that's why he takes less risk, top reward, everyone has an option these so call smaller fighters don't have to take the fight with Floyd but they do because they are also trying to get money, just like Sergio is trying to cash in off of Floyds great name...

    But Sergio has no fan base is bigger and May would have to move up at least a weight-class, why take that risk when he can get that same money or more fighting someone like Ortiz who's pretty much his size, call him a coward, cherry-picker, ducker or a good buisness-man...

    At the end of the day I'm sure he doesn't care what his critics has to say he's still going to do him and that's get money, so all you sour hats's go suck a lemon...
     
  12. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    It was also put in the contract of him having an option to pay for his extra pounds, so his chose to do that, if anyone is at fault its Juan and his team for not putting their foot down, 144 or no fight, we all know Juan wanted a decent pay day and he got it and got his ass whipped...
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    That was added the morning of the weigh in. And that still doesn't change the fact that Floyd just decided he didn't need to weign at what they originally agreed to.

    Iff JMM decided the fight was not going to happen, the backlash would have been huge. JMM took a buillet for us to get a fight. He did nothing wrong.
     
  14. Blizz42

    Blizz42 Boxing Addict banned

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    Because Pacquiao asking Cotto to come in at 145 lbs is supposed to make more sense. We're talking about evil Floyd here dun:lol: Ain't nothing fair about that dude:rofl
     
  15. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    At the end of the day 2 pounds is 2 pounds, would have made no difference, everyone who disagrees is just critical because Floyd decided he didn't want to drain down to an uncomfortable weight, had JMM won the fight we wouldn't be having this debate, everyone would have been praising Juan for being so great, the last guy JMM fought could have weighed 2 pounds over and still loss..

    So get over it people... And by the way Juan took this so call bullet because he new just like we all know, that 2 pounds wasn't ****...