Why was Mercante criticized for waiting to stop the Foreman/Frazier fight

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seems to me that he was trying to give him a chance to come back, since he was the champion.

    Moore was dropped 3 times in the first round vs Durrel and if Jack Sharkey would have stopped the fight, Moore would have lost the title.
     
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    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because he waited too long. Frazier clearly was not coming back into that fight,its a rare error of judgement by Mercante imo.
    Harry Gibbs who was one of the referees talked of as possibly getting the fight ,said Mercante was too slow in stopping the fight in his autobiography,and I agree with him.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think Jack Sharkey turned out to be an excellent referee for an ex champion. He handled the Moore Durelle fights perfectly. Although Moore went down extremely heavily (hitting his head on the boards hard) he did beat the count and he was not quite defenceless enough to be rescued after or between the next two knockdowns. His legs had gone but he was not offering an open target. It is the free shots on an open target that a referee cannot permit. That is the point where he must be saved. Sharkey was close enough to make that judgment and was correct.

    The Frazier fight, The first knockdown Joe was clear enough to walk to a neutral corner. THE second knockdown he beat the count, deserved to continue, was not quite defenceless and the bell saved him on the third knockdown anyway.

    The second round I think Mercante did take a bit of a risk. A bit.

    The first knockdown of that round Frazier was ok to continue. The second one he probably was too but Mercante did not check him out after he beat the count. Then when it continued Mercante was not exactly hovering around to stop anything and was too far away to save Joe who I think on reflection could have been saved a punch or two before the final knockdown happened.

    To be fair to Mercante, he did warn George for pushing. I am not sure the rules permitted the “time out” to demonstrate the taking off of points in the middle of the round in those days which (was certainly deserved) and this from what I can remember was the only criticism.

    The real fine line in professional refereeing is of being considered somebody who dosnt stop fights too soon. Everyone knows when a fight should be stopped but the ones who leave it that bit too long are in higher demand than the referee who stops it one punch too soon.

    Lennox Lewis was not ready to continue against McCall. But that is not to say another referee would risk a certain further knockdown.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    And yet Gibbs counted after letting Bonecrusher pound Bruno’s wide open rebounding head on a loose neck.

    Harrys only defence that time might have been the bell could have halted Franks count on the last round. A crazy risk.

    Sometimes all referees are dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t.
     
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