Why was Mosley able to hurt PBF and not Cotto?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by northstar, Apr 30, 2011.


  1. northstar

    northstar Member Full Member

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    He actually didn't move all that much with the exception of the last quarter of the fight. Even if that were true, that didn't stop Shane from landing 177/335 (53%) of his power shots on him. He hit him with temple shots uppercuts etc, and wasn't close to putting a guy who was supposed to have a suspect chin away.

    Maybe the added weight of being a full fledged WW enhanced cotto's punch resistance; or maybe he happened to see the blows at the last second thus preparing him to brace for them (since many of those punches were leads.)
     
  2. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because their two fights were not EXACTLY the same and they did not get hit with the EXACT same punches with the EXACT same power, in the EXACT same locations within the EXACT same windows of opportunity.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    first reply. Five pages later, still the best one
     
  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This
     
  5. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think that punch was anything special more Floyd's punch resistance and his age. Still he recovered. Manny is tough for him because of shots he won't be able to see and some will land. look if it was gonna be an easy fight we would have seen it instead of seeing Shane next week.
    My own personal opinion is if you do the spaghetti dance you have a weak punch resistance. Mayweather def did the spaghetti dance. did he not ?
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Instead of asking yourself questions, go watch the Cotto fight again. Cotto was hurt in round 10 and seemed dazed all the way to the 12th. Cotto just tries to fake it though it's very clear for anyone that has seen enough fights of his to spot he's stunned/hurt.
     
  7. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    because mayweather's chin is overrated!

    It might be brittle or even glass, except that no one was able to test it thoroughly. But everytime someone touches it, he buckles.

    No one knew RJJ's chin is glass until someone actually connected.
     
  8. EgoyLover

    EgoyLover Guest

    Everything about Mayweather is overrated. You can quote me on this. I will be vindicated in the next few years, like I was on Pac. :deal
     
  9. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto fought a very different fight than Floyd did against Shane. Cotto fought a very tight fight as far as his defense went. Shane also underestimated him. Shanes didn't land his right hand with all his body into it on Cotto as he did with Floyd.
     
  10. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd has been hit many of times by power shots and took them. It's just that Mosley him right on the button to cause a major reaction. It can happen to the best of them.
     
  11. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    Cause Cotto was on puerto rican manufactured a-side meth
     
  12. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Mosley caught Cotto square on the button, and Floyd's chin is a bit suspect
     
  13. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Um shane happened to land two very good rights that were really clean on floyd. Though he lost every round after that.

    Cotto didnt get tagged with the same monster shots though he had a much closer fight.

    Take your pick.
     
  14. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've also wondered this, and I think what Boxed Ears said early is pretty spot on. But what we also have to take into consideration is that at the time Cotto was seen as a chinny guy going in against Shane, and Mosley didn't really seem to have much of a game plan except to go there and punish the hittable, chinny Cotto. Miguel of course fought a very good fight, and didn't get seriously hurt in the fight.

    Against Floyd, Shane set up his punches better than against Cotto and surprised him with the right hand early. Some people say Floyd was slightly stunned in the 12rd also, but I haven't really seen it.

    In the end, I think Floyd's chin was slightly overrated, and Cotto's (at the time) slightly underrated. Shane seemed to buy the weak chin hype against Cotto and brawled with him, not trying to set things up. Against Floyd, he was able to land the right hand at the right moment by mixing up the body and head attack.
     
  15. perspicacity

    perspicacity Raising The Bar Full Member

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    This is interesting but inconclusive just now. I agree it could be nothing but also consider Shane was a little fresher too against Cotto arguably. It'll be interesting to see if Mosley connects with Pacquiao next week and what the reaction will be. Manny should in theory be easier for Shane to hit, although Floyd didn't appear too elusive, at least early on in that fight.