why was the 24-day cutoff not acceptable to floyd?

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  1. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Just like xyclocaine used by floyd mayweather,jr during his trainings, right? He uses this kind of drug to "numb" his fists so he can prolong his trainings (specially during sparring sessions). By doing this, it's like using this as a Performance-Enhancing Drug, isn't it? Floyd admittedly used this before. Xyclocaine is illegal in Texas, so maybe that's the main reason why he rejected the Dallas Cowboys Stadium.
     
  2. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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  3. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    I doubt it. Pacquiao/Clottey is apparently already signed and ready to go. Also, like I've said 100 times now, 14 days was a reasonable concession by Floyd given the fact that Manny said that a couple days cutoff would be fine and Roach said five days was fine. If they were so vehemently against the idea of additional testing, which is what they came back to after Floyd called their bluff by offering 14 days and Arum got caught in yet another lie, then they should have said so from the beginning instead of dangling concessions in front of everyone's face.
     
  4. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone posted this dialogue in the comments section of the article.

    Source here.


    Partial blow-by-blow transcript of a GBP insider of the Mediation meeting.
    written by GBP Press Dept, January 07, 2010
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    Schaefer: Oscar, Al and I think we should convince Floyd to agree to the fight already.
    Al: Yeah Oscar. They have now agreed to let Pacquiao take the test 24 days before the fight and minutes after the fight. It won't be long til the people realize the burden is really on our side to let this fight happen.
    Schaefer: I don't think we can make anymore excuses about the HGH windowing.
    Oscar: Well, you gotta talk to Floyd into it. But I won't guarantee that he'll say yes.
    Al: Yep, I know that.
    Oscar: You know how much that guy worships his undefeated record. He wants Mathew.
    Schaefer: I'll call him now anyway.
    (Phone rings. Floyd answers phone)
    Floyd: Yo! This is the pretty boy speaking. No. 1 pound for pound boxing champion! Undefeated! Undisputed! The cash cow of boxing! Who's this?
    Schaefer: Uh, hello Floyd. This is me, Schaefer.
    Floyd: Yo ma' man! What's up? Any news about Mathew?
    Schaefer: None for now Floyd. Uh... listen... Pacquiao has agreed to be tested 24 days before the fight instead of 30. That leaves him no time to make the cycle since he will also be tested minutes after the fight. I don't think he'll ever get away with it in case he really has it in his sys-
    Floyd: He's juiced up man! If my daddy says so then that's for sure!
    Schaefer: Alright, alright... I don't think he'll be able to get away with it. Anyway, the blood test after the fight will surely show all the HGH and PED in his system so we really got nothing to lose. In case Manny beats you up, he'll still be disqualified after the fight and you'll still have your perfect record. Com'n Floyd this really really big money! Don't you want it?
    Floyd: Uh... like how big?
    Schaefer: (voice beaming now) Really big! Like you know how big the MGM Grand is?
    Floyd: uhuh
    Schaefer: That big! Even bigger!
    Floyd: Really!?
    Schaefer: Yes Floyd. That big. But wait! There's more! You'll surely be in the Hall Of Fame if you have another great fight in your record. You'll be recognized as one the ATG!
    Floyd: What's ATG?
    Schaefer: ALL TIME GREATS! Like Ali and Ray Robinson. This is the biggest fight of your career Floyd. You'll be remembered for this fa-
    (Al takes the phone)
    Al: Hello Floyd. Al here. Let's take this fight. We can make so much money here you know. They've already agreed to shorten the test period before the fight. We don't have any other excuses! The people know what we're doing Floyd. Stop chickening out! Fighting Ricky's brother would only degrade you more. Let's fight Pacquiao. What do you say?
    Floyd: You know I can beat him Al. I can knock him out cold! He's just a one-dimensional fighter. He's a terrible boxer. He can't-
    Al: Yada yada yada. So what's your answer? Is it a yes or a no?
    Floyd: Uh... No.
    Al: ****!
    (Al gives the phone to Schaefer)
    Schaefer: Com'n Floyd. Just say yes already. What more do you want? We all know you can beat him. Right? You're father thinks you can beat Pacquiao right? Right Floyd?
    Floyd: Damn right he does! Dad said I'm gonna whoop Pacquiao's ***! I'm the best! Pacquiao is just another boxer they built up to beat me! He can't beat me. I haven't been knocked out before. Pacquiao's been knocked out before! He's no match against me. I'm gonna whoop his *** so bad he's gonna wish he never signed up for the fight! Yeah man! I'm undefeated. I have fought the best. And there's no fighter out there that can beat me. I'm the Pretty Boy Floyd!
    Schaefer: Great Floyd! I totally agree with you. Pacquiao is gonna get the beating of his life! So does that mean you'll fight him?
    Floyd: No.
    Schaefer: ****!
     
  5. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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    :good:lol:
     
  6. haha. you tards are still bickering over this. :-(
     
  7. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a cut out of a Yahoo article. Sorry if you have already read it

    (http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-pacfloydnegotiations010810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

    Dr. Don H. Catlin, the head of the Los Angeles-based non-profit Anti-Doping Research, Inc., said a 24-day cutoff for blood testing is not sufficient to prevent abuse. One of the concerns with such a long blood-testing cutoff prior to the date of competition would be the potential use of Erythropoietin, or EPO.

    But Catlin said that wouldn’t be the only concern if there were a 24-day cutoff imposed.

    “If you have a 24-day window that’s free, with no testing, you can take whatever you want and you’re not going to get caught, end of story,” Catlin said. “[Urine testing] does matter, yes, but they’re not going to catch everything by urine testing alone. What you would do is to take Mircera [a type of EPO], which is available and which is not easy to detect in urine and away you go. You need a blood test.”


    A non random blood test is like police doing a drugs raid on a house but letting them know when they are going to do it. We all know police would arrive to find an clean house. Drugs can be flushed or naturally taken from the body (depending on which drugs they are) so a non random test is pretty much pointless.

    People keep going on about how they dont see how these drugs would make pac better but thats not the point. The point is these drugs are not legal in boxing. Regardless of if they are giving pac the edge or not they have no place in the sport.