Why was the recent Silva fight any worse than GSP vs Hardy UFC111?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by james4210, Apr 17, 2010.


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  1. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    GSP vs Hardy was a total snooze-fest. The greatest moments of excitement was Hardy surviving a couple of poorly applied arm locks. it was basically Hardy dumped on his ass within 10 seconds. GSP on top totally controlling but doing no damage and unable to finish.

    Okay I've heard all the arguments, I don't wish to rehash things. I've read what everyone said about Silva. and I agree about the faults of the fight. It seems to me that he has been singled out for criticism, it is understandable due to the way he fought. As well as the clowning people were saying that he ran and were angry that he didn't engaged toe to toe.

    But I would suggest GSP is far more guilty of that. by just taking things to the ground as soon as possible. I've seen many other fighters do this as well. To take the fight to the ground because it's much safer and there is much less chance of being caught by a winging punch out of the blue.

    I think it's time to reassess the silva performance. if you have a recorded try watching GSP vs Hardy again if you can bear to. and then if you have it, watch the Silva Vs Maia fight. Skip the first two rounds and you end up watching a fight which is much better than you remember. there is some real skill on display, and hard punches going in.

    I think there are two types of fans, the first kind just want to see blood and carnage, Two dum smose battering the hell out of each other with no thought for defence.

    And the second kind, who also enjoy the above but also have an interest in martial arts and fighting and appreciates the element of fighting called "no get hit", which Silva displayed, neutralising or his opponents attacks.
     
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  2. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because there's skill involved in in keeping a man down and dominating on the ground. There's no skill in running away from your opponent and doing practically sod all for 2 1/2 rounds.
     
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  3. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if you can't see the difference man then there's no point in anyone explaining it.
     
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  4. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Uhh that should be easy to see really.........
     
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  5. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good grief!Are you seriously attempting to compare the two?
     
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  6. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Ha what a ******.
     
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  7. fightfan311

    fightfan311 Member Full Member

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    just stop watching fighting sports if you can't see the difference!!!
     
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  8. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GSP was trying to finish the fight, obviously. GSP was fighting Dan Hardy the entire fight, obviously.
     
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  9. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    The general lack of respect has angered me.

    Well I'm going to fire back.

    I'm going to suggest that you never even saw the Silva Vs Maia fight.

    During the fight, Silva went into a very strange fighting stance several times. It was very distinctive. Can you describe what he did?

    Any offers? no didn't think so.
     
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  10. tri-pod

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    How about the general lack of respect Silva showed the fans? Not once, not twice, but three times.

    If you can't see the difference between dominating someone on the ground and running away from your opponent when you could massacre him standing up then you are pretty deluded. :-(
     
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  11. tri-pod

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    That would be called the sprinting stance.

    Picture example of a sprinting stance:

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  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    There really is no comparison. GSP works for every second of every round. The fight was a ground fight so he was doing what you do and going for subs. I would have like more brutality on the ground but he was working. Silva ran which would be the equivilent of GSP holding Hardy in full guard/gable grip for 2 mins. If that was the case, they would have got stood up. I think it would have been good if Silvas running around for 2 mins got him put on his back or in guard depending what Maia wanted.

    Just to clarify I think standing fighters up is often stupid and I would think a fighter being put on the ground is stupid.

    If Silva ran, it is Maia's job to catch him.
     
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  13. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl
     
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  14. fightfan311

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    is this a joke? when was the last time you saw a ref tell a guy to stop running in an mma fight?
     
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  15. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    Good call, and here is the actual pic, he did this about five times in a row.

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    come on this alone is worth the price of admission.


    And look at Maia's face after the fight, it wasn't the referee that did that. I mean if Silva did this whilst fleeing in a cowardly fashion I'd love to see what he is like on a good day.

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