Why was tyson ''a hype job'' ?

Fringe? excluding the obvious choices which make up the immortal top 3..show me 7 other heavies that should be in front of him based on how he cleaned out the division, unified the titles, took on all comers and was P4P? Tyson was a ATG by the time the 80s closed out if we are being honest and no on some hater ****

 

So can we assume that these problems are the same for EVERYBODY and not just your hero? And therefore discount his wins over Green, Tucker, Tubbs, Biggs and Thomas who all had booze and / or drug problems?

If so that leaves just Berbick ( sh it ) Bonecrusher ( slightly better ) Holmes ( old ) Spinks ( Light Heavy for most of his career ) Bruno and Williams ( certainly not top tier ) before Douglas fuked him.

Those 5 are supposed to be the resume of a top 5 ATG Heavyweight are they?

 

A product of the times. Living fast and hard, and bringing excitement to the ring. Ultimately burning out and crashing. Ultimately he wasn't the best the of his generation. But Tyson was damn good, if just outside my top 10 heavyweights.

 

He also happens to be Evander Holyfields best win.

 

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Lenni Chiny Cant take a punch to the face Lewi desperately wanted his name to add value to his so called legacy. He still boasts and talks about it to keep reminding people of his legacy.

 

And one of the easiest championship fights in his long career...

 

He certainly achieved less than many expected of him, and fringe top 10 is about right, but can we really call him a hype job?

It is not hype if it is justified, and I would submit that the high expectations were reasonable, given the information available at the time.

 

Berbick,Smith and Tucker were reigning champions when Tyson beat them.
Tucker was unbeaten and destroyed Douglas before the Tyson fight.
Biggs was drug free and unbeaten when Tyson destroyed him.
(Plus Biggs was in great shape he bulked his muscle mass)
Maybe Thomas had drug problem but he was in great shape at least.
Green was in great shape against Tyson.
Holmes was old (38 years old) but he was in far better shape
than against Mercer,Holyfield and McCall.And he was much
more older(42 years old) when he beat the unbeaten Mercer
easier than Lewis a fat one.
I hope you'll create a list about Foreman's or Lewis' opponents.
But i help you.
About some Lewis' opponents:
-Weaver:40 years old
-Tucker was fat and far away from his prime .(maybe drug problems)
-Bruno :Tyson beat him easier two times.
-Phil Jackson: a bum
and McCall destroyed Lewis.
After this pathetic loss he went and licked steward's ass.
He beat nobodies and/or problematic fighters (Briggs asthma problem,mavrovic nobody,tua fat neverbeen,grant glass chinned
an mccline beat him easier than lewis,Golota knee and mental problem,mccall mental (and maybe drug problem),Holyfield was old,
Tyson (a post prison fighter,mental and maybe drug problem),
Botha fat neverbeen,Akinwande neverbeen(practically he knocked
down Lewis.)
to his brutal Rahman ko loss.
His last fight :Vitali humiliated him and he won by a lucky cut ko.

And Foreman's
best wins:Frazier who was unathletic (he couldn't swim,lift weight,
sprint) and he was half-blind,plus fat out of shape and glass chinned
considering the **** bonavena knocked him down.
Frazier had a short carrier only 37 fights.
Moorer:a glass-chinned not real heavyweight fighter who was
fat and out of shape against foreman.(Tua destroyed Moorer in the
first round at 0:30.)
I don't know other mentionable Foreman win.
I hope you can create a better list.

 

I have heard so many people Mock Tyson's resume and claim Lewi's resume trumps Tysons. Tyson has had 58 fights in his Career, Leni had 44 and Leni faced a lot of common opponents that Tyson also faced, only difference is that Tyson faced them much earlier when they were fresh, more dangerous and had something left in the tank. I have seen a Lewi's interview after the 2002 Tyson fight where he mocked Tyson's legacy, claimed all he ever did in his entire life was just beat bums and that Tyson never faced a fighter like me. So is Leni Chinny cant take a punch to the face admitting that he took ended up facing a vast majority of bums in his career?

Leni was a good fighter but he had a very good business and managerial team as well. They match maked for him brilliantly and got him in with the right fighters at the right time.

 

A past prime lazy Tyson was loosing against Botha and knocked him out. He took vicious poundings from Ruddock in both fights and won. Plus being whooped by Douglas for 8 rounds and still coming back with a KD in 8th, fighting till the end coming forward. This guy had a ton of heart, it's just that his post prison fights tarnished his legacy a bit.
Standing at 1,80m and with a shorter reach he was always at a disadvantage. So what he did was amazing. Not TOP5, but TOP10 heavyweight ATG no doubt.

 

Of course. The very fact that he is the 2nd most talked about Heavyweight ever, coupled with your own admission of his under achievement means he was something of a hype job, by definition.

 

An undefeated Ridd!ck Bowe is quite clearly Holyfield's best win.

 

Bowe is probably Holyfield's best win but Tyson is his greatest.

 

To me the term "hype job" implies a manufactured fighter, or a media creation, and that is not what we have here.

Before his first loss, Tyson had arguably achieved more than any other heavyweight in history, at the same age. He was overrated because of a high level of performance, that he ultimately couldn't maintain.

So while many of the people hyping him were wrong, it is easy to understand why they were wrong.