Why wasn't Calzaghe given more credit for his wins against RJJ and Hopkins?

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  1. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    I thought @HerolGee got the boot a while ago?
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you are still a bro though at the mo
     
  3. _Frankly

    _Frankly Bivolian! banned Full Member

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    Page 15 :lol:

    Dude just admit you made the analogy to imply a huge age gap & 'condition' between the two to discredit Calzaghe! Just admit it..

    Again, who was 43 & what was the actual age gap? Then we can see how wide of the mark you are...

    Waiting...
     
  4. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    There was a huge age gap. I didn't think Calzaghe won, but on paper, a W over Hopkins is a good win up through 48 years old. Even the Hopkins that lost to Kovalev at 48, would have arguably still beat seven or eight guys ranked in the top 10. That doesn't mean that the 43 year old Hops was anywhere near his prime, because athletically, his peak was around 35 or 36.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Everyone knows the real answer for that. Calzaghe won the fight in Roid's backyard, same with Hopkins. Why didn't they come to Wales?
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    .... you now admit its an analogy...and yet...you still question who was 43 in the analogy, as if you are clinging to the argument that its NOT an analogy? -
    haha! good luck getting your own argument coherent. This is awesome entertainment - please dont stop now!
     
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  7. _Frankly

    _Frankly Bivolian! banned Full Member

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    Gotcha!! :lol:

    The '30 & 40 yr old' post u made & the '43 year old' one were two separate posts. You CLEARLY referred to Hopkins in that one being 43 whilst (under questioning) trying to dissociate the analogous one (30-40) from them directly. What you've just done here is directly link the two posts into one thus undermining your statement that your numbers analogy 'wasn't necessarily referring directly to them'! U just put Hopkins in your analogy ha ha ha

    Whether one of your posts was was an analogy or not was never my argument. My questions were to ascertain the truth & the implications of those two posts you made.

    Here's a reminder of what you did... The thread title was clear:

    He asked you this:

    You replied thus:

    You then spent 15 pages trying to wriggle out of that whilst also refusing to admit that this statement:

    Was false also!

    Until finally you just took a huge big shat all over yourself on page 15! LOL

    Next time spare us your agenda driven falsehoods & 10 year age gap analogies & just stick to the ACTUAL age gap liar.

    Way to contradict yourself & have your own word's end your own arguments. It's been great fun.
     
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  8. Starz

    Starz New Member banned Full Member

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    No the mods protect him clearly. Everything he does should come under 'racial trolling' but he gets a pass
    Whereas you got banned for nothing.....
     
  9. Starz

    Starz New Member banned Full Member

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    You're a mentally ill inferior Indian curry munching victim

    Where I'm from your corner shop would be burned down if anyone got word of your sublte coward racism you 100% coward.

    You spend most of your time hating on all the top white fighters. when your South Asian race and nation are hopelessly terrible at Boxing, can't fight to save your lives! Couldn't be any worse, can't get to any decent level and all have feathef fists glass jaws and hopelessly low standards.

    No Indian has ever achieved 1% of what Calzaghe or Klitschko did or had 1% of the ability they had. What makes you think you can even talk about boxing.

    You're just a ***** who's life is trolling.You've never had a fight in your life, and you were too dumb to even complete you medical studies, you total failure in life.

    you used to be called @Ren and you were 'CalzagheTheCoward' and 'JoeCalzagheTheCoward' on youtube. You wouldn't say a word to Calzaghe in real life, his life has been the total opposite of your life.
     
  10. Rdc4444

    Rdc4444 Member Full Member

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    Omg...where is the love?
     
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  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Same reason Mayweather doesn't get full credit for whooping Pac. If FM beat Pac right after Pac beat Cotto, then full credit would have been given. If Calzaghe had beaten Jones before Jones moved up to heavyweight, back down and knocked out, he would had been considered the best fighter in the past 25 years, no arguement. Doesn't take anything away from JC.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    i'm not indian, nor a cricket fan but I'd hazard sachin tundulker easily outstrips their combined sporting prowess.

    good thing u were booted.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I am glad you got that it was an analogy, thanks.

    wierd thing is , the quote you show from me actually shows it clearly, thus you ended your own charade.

    next time do it quicker than 15 pages.


    cheers.
     
  14. Deeza

    Deeza HerolGee is a coward. banned Full Member

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    Hi mate :)

    I don't know why you lie so much.. you just embarrass yourself and make yourself look stupid. I never understand why people become Compulsive liars. Lying is such a cowardly act,
    You clearly in a thread from years back called ' Why are Vitali fanboys defending the atrocious Charr fight' stated you were indian, the thread has been deleted but a screenshot was posted here. [url]http://www.x-boxing-forum.com/showthread.php/3879-What-Kind-Of-****-Skin-Do-You-Think-That-Troll-******-Herol-*****-Is[/url]
    So you've FLOPped there.


    ^

    Lol at you trying to act hard! A guy who refuses to even reply to a pm you mentally ill internet geek You are nothing but a coward, from a race of people who cannot fight to save their lives. If you had any balls whatsoever you'd reply to pm and arrange to meet me face to face, It's likely I live near you, yet you refuse to even say where you're from lol. You are nothing but a coward and a *****.

    Type in HerolGee and Ren in the search and the word Indian and there's loads of examples of you defending Indians.


    And As for your reply to my point about no Indian boxer ever having 1% of the ability Calzaghe and Klitschko had, You reply with naming some cricket player!!!! Showing your 'typical Indian' low standards again there mate! haha. I was referring to Boxing and you suddenly mention cricket!!!! Cricket is an unathletic sport like Golf lol. It's your national sport and you have a huge population of 1. 4 BILLION People. Yet .... small nations like Austrailia 20 million, and South Africa 55 million usually kick India's ass at it!
    What low standards non relevant comment are you gonna make next are you gonna mention some bronze medal India won at disabled female Egg-Tossing or something! You ****ing loser lol. I was talking about Boxing. India underachieve at every single sport and that's a fact, the worst nation at sport in the world. It's hilarious just how bad you are at sport with a population DOUBLE the entire continent of Europe put together!

    MY point remains that no Indian boxer has ever past present pro or am ever had 1% of the ability Calzaghe and the Klitschko's had. So you've FLOPPED there Apu.
    So go along and report me there's a good little pakky, I'll leave you to rot on here. you lying, trolling, coward.
     
  15. Scar

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    The Hopkins victory definitely deserves some credit, especially when it was Calzaghe's first fight overseas. Despite Hopkins' age, he was still a very dangerous opponent who was coming off an unexpected victory over Tarver and a win over Wright.

    The RJJ victory was meaningless pretty much and for clear reasons. I don't even think I need to explain this one. Any Boxing fan with even the least knowledge possible should know why this victory is nothing.
     
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