Why wasn't Hagler more aggressive vs. Duran and Leonard?

I wish we would of seen the angry Hagler against Duran and SRL
The one who knocked out Minter,Hamsho 2 & Hearns all in three rounds
The belt,illegal headbutts, & respect he wanted brought out a more aggressive Hagler
SRL did all he could to praise Hagler leading up to fight

 

This is pretty accurate. Marvin was best when he thought the guy in front of him was a big challenge. I would have loved to have seen Marvin Hagler fight the Benitez who fought Hearns in 1982. Hagler might have had a lot of trouble.

 

With Hearns, Hagler put out his all mentally and physically. I don't think he was the same again. He could never really get that high again or that motivated. Hagler vs. Hearns was fought with such intensity in round one because they really didn't like each other. The press conferences and comments made each guy caused the other guy to really be upset. Top fighters in boxing with egos. Made for a great fight.

 

You don't think Leonard and Duran have enough power to discourage a middleweight? Why dont you let them have some free shots on your chin

 

I assume your laughing at the stupidity of your posts. I am.

 

I assume He-Grant has never boxed thinking Leonard and Duran don't have enough power to discourage an opponent, idiot

 

I don't think it was due to their power more because they punched smart and countered effectivley. A smart well placed/timed punch can hurt (in boxing sense of the word) more than a power packed punch that was just slung out. Hagler IMO got discouraged a little because they were countering much better than he had anticipated.

 

Your point was that Leonard and Duran , at middleweight, had the power to hurt Hagler. Not an opponent , but a blown up lightweight and welterweight hurting one of the greatest chins of all time. Don't simplify the facts to hide your weak argument. In 27 rounds neither remotely stunned him. When confronted with facts you react like a little girl. Plain and simple . Proof that you can post 26,000 time and stll know nothing.

 

Pretty much my initial point, clean punches sting, throw you off balance and stun you. Punching is about quality as much as it's power but Duran and Leonard did have a decent dig at MW

umm let's see if you're talking BS or not by quoting my initial post? Did I say 'Hurt'? Maybe you have a problem with the definition of words, 'discourage' does not equate hurt, although clean punches from elite fighters do actually hurt and stun, which makes a fighter back off, ie discourage them, which you'd know if you'd actually boxed

 

It's obvious why you have 26,000 posts ... your a double talking last word freak ... whatever. Take your foot out of your mouth and be a man ... it would raise your game ...

 

he showed to much respect to Duran and i think with Leonard he just got more bothered about showing that Leonard could not hurt him also his skill's had gone a little and he had possibly naturally just slowed down and as a result could not get his punches off

 

Duran and Leonard were both masterful boxers with experience, speed, power, defense, head movement and footwork, and fine ring generalship and timing. What folks forget about Hagler is he was actually more of a cautious methodical boxer with a gradual wearing down style. Sure he had pop and was physically strong, but he was rarely super aggressive. Hagler had speed, but was not super fast either. That plays into the hands of a likely competitive bout with fine boxers like Duran and Leonard. Folks have a vision of Hagler based on one fight - vs. Hearns, which really was super exciting because Hearns tried to beat Hagler's ass in the 1st round so it brought something out in Marvin. But that was not typical Hagler, if you look at the overall body of his work.

I think he outworked Duran for the most part, and Duran only won an occasional round if a judge was being generous and scoring the occasional fast well timed solid sharp-shot that got the crowd excited over the more consistent but less flashy volume work.

Leonard had superior speed and footwork, and Hagler was not going to go for broke chasing the guy all over the big ring and wear himself out trying to get to him. He fought a guy with faster hands, feet, and the ability to counter. Yet he still got in on Leonard plenty of times and pounded on him in several rounds. But overall, Hagler was too methodical, fighting his usual 15 round pace, but this one was 12 rounds. 15 rounds and he might have won.

 

Because he wasn't as confident and self assured as many would have us believe. When the level of opposition stepped up Marvin sometimes stepped down. He had self doubts regarding his own stamina and resistence to cuts.

Blasphemy, but there it is.

 

Not at all .. dead on ..

 

With Ray Leonard, Ray did beat him. So it is a question why did Hagler come out righty. He just was a little slow in that fight and not prime at all. Rusty. Marvin just didn't look like the fighter he was before.


The fact is he beat Duran. That fight was not a win for Duran. Hagler expected Duran to come forward and he would counterpunch. Marvin was not great at ad******g in fights, but if he had a gameplan and it worked he did well. Duran lost to Benitez easily near that time and stopped by Hearns easily. It was the Hagler side of the fight which was the main variable.