Why wasn't Rahman Ali an ATG like his brother? They had very similar genetics

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    What held him back from being as great as Muhammad.
     
  2. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why wasn't Roger Leonard as good as Sugar Ray Leonard?
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Good question
     
  4. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    for some people it works out and for some people it don't
     
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  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I don't think Rahman was as competitive as Ali. And while Rahman was fast and athletic, i don't think he was as quick as Ali.

    Wlad and Vitali were brothers but they did not have identical genetics. Vitali had a great chin and Wlad didn't.

    Rahman was happy to be a support person for his brother as opposed to a serious contender. Boxing is a hard sport and there is no reason to do it unless you truly desire it and need the money.
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bro-Lite | Boxing News 24 Fan Forum

    Here's a link to a thread I did a couple of years ago that I called, 'Bro-Lite'. Basically naming fighters who had a brother that just didn't make it at the top level even with that DNA shared with a world class sibling.
     
  7. Journeyman92

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    I think Wlad’s issue was more his reaction to being hit, his mindset. Vitali was mean and kept his eyes on the prize even when he was being lit up.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In his early fights Wlad went out there and shot his wad too early, too.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Surprising. I assumed 100% that this thread was made on the heels of and due to recently released extensive footage of Rahman boxing. At least new to me. See below: -

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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Henry Cooper s twin was the same.
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I think Rahman looked pretty decent - of course the quality of the opponent has to be accounted for also.

    That he wasn’t as fast as Ali is no surprise but he still had quick hands all the same and he appeared to pay more heed to the body than his older bro.

    He appeared a bit more muscular than Ali, including the back muscles. His style isn’t exactly similar to Ali’s but I wouldn’t say it was completely dissimilar either - he held his hands up more for sure.

    His height is listed as 6’3 1/2”??? - the vision doesn’t corroborate imo. Very close to Ali in height but a shade shorter.

    Interesting that the genetic combination of the Mum and Dad (the latter not being at all) sired almost identically sizes offspring who were appreciably larger than both their parents.

    I wonder how big the Klit’s parents are or were? :D
     
  12. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Klitschkos, Quarrys, Spinks and the Twin Sullivans are the exception not the rule.
     
  13. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And Wlad could hit like a truck but Vitali couldn't.

    Siblings don't get identical genes. Anyone who has (multiple) kids knows this.
     
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