Why were GGG fans so Angry at Sergio Martinez?

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LMFAO you are pathetic.

    Let me do this bullet point style.

    • Canelo never won 5 rounds in either fight, Derevyanchenko did.

    • Lara never beat Williams. It can be argued Trout is or is not better than Vanes, but who is Trout’s best win? And Lara has much more trouble with Vanes.

    • You admit Canelo dropped the 160 belt instead of unifying with GGG to go fave Smith, then up to 164 for Chavez jr......so in YOUR eyes that must equate to a duck.

    You are everything you claim to hate.
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Except that Martinez himself was saying he didn't care about that and he felt GGG was just another unknown hypejob... if you look into it Martinez wanted to fight GGG after Cotto, said Cotto was just a deserved money fight and afterward he wanted Golovkin it just so happened he lost to Cotto. Hell even Cotto said after winning if GGG was willing to do a catch weight like Martinez he would have fought GGG GGG just cried about weight.
     
  3. IsaL

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    • Canelo is 1-1-0 against GGG, to be 1-1-0 against anyone you had to have won more than 5 rounds moron.

    • Lara never beat Williams but you argue that Golovkin beat Canelo? WTF????! lol (More GGGoon double standards)

    • No I don't admit that, whatever you say I did.. I said Canelo had his excuses for vacating his WBC title, yet he immediately challenged Golovkin to a fight at 155 for no titles.

    You're a moron.
     
  4. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    You shouldn’t expect to get away with defending a title at a catch weight whilst said champion of the weight.

    As a one off I’ve no problem, but both Cotto and Canelo won a 160 title then defend said title at catch weights, no fighter should agree to that imo.

    Golovkin was the recognised number 1/2 in the division at the time of Martinez v Cotto.

    Ive no problem with Martinez swerving GGG at that time in his career but he should still be held in account and not a revised history to suit agendas.
     
  5. IsaL

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    And the pathetic thing is that GGG has been quoted since 2002-2017 that he would fight anyone between 154-168.

    GGG really fooled his fans.
     
  6. IsaL

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    MW is 154.1-160 just in case you were not aware.

    GGG said he would fight anyone below 160, just in case you were not aware.

    Both Cotto and Canelo dropped the title and called out GGG's bluff about fighting below 160., just in case you were not aware.
     
  7. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    1. Why would Canelo offer a fight at 155? Then 2 fights later be at 164? Canelo ducked GGG at that time and it was plain as day, deep down you know it.

    2. Williams got the W on paper, stop bitching, or did you want to ignore your initial double standards?
     
  8. Odins beard

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    What title was Cotto and Canelo defending?

    The 155/157 belt or the 160?

    And when did Cotto drop the belt calling Golovkin’s bluff?

    2 Simple answers.
     
  9. IsaL

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    1. Because he had never fought above 155, because GGG said he would fight anyone below 160.

    2. It was a clear typo. Obviously I meant Lara beat Williams.
     
  10. rorschach51

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    This shouldn't even be a debate, of course Sergio is better than GGG.
     
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  11. rorschach51

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    I'll trust the eye test, Sergio was better.
     
  12. Odins beard

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    No you are missing the point, Canelo won the 160 belt not the 155, 2 fights later he was comfortable enough to drain a walking punchbag in Chavez jr and fight at 164.

    Where does 155 fit in in fighting Golovkin other than trying to drain him?
     
  13. IsaL

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    What part of Golovkin saying, "I'l fight anyone bwteen 154-168 don't you understand?

    and

    What part of Canelo telling Golovkin to meet him at 55 for a Non-title fight don't you understand?
     
  14. Odins beard

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    Good Lord above you are ****ing inbred, it’s the only possible explanation.

    Im getting a bit bored now because it’s like Groundhog Day on this forum when it comes to you.

    • 154-168 has been done to death, it was prior to Golovkin getting a TV deal and belt, after that it was 154 for FLOYD ONLY.

    • Why would Canelo fight for a 160 belt, win and defend it against a smaller man, only to give it up when faced with a unification fight at 160 only to then go and gave Liam Smith? How is that pro active to Canelo and his career?

    So in your eyes Golovkin drops his belt instead of facing Derevyanchenko at short notice and it is a duck yet Canelo dropping a belt to face Smith instead of Golovkin isn’t???

    Mate you are embarrassing.
     
  15. IsaL

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    • Golovkin has been quoted as recent at 2017 that he will fight anyone between 154-168.

    • Because the belt is not bigger than Canelo or Cotto. The Canelo-Cotto fight had been anticipated for YEARS. They could have fought each other for no titles and it would have still been a successful PPV. Regardless of what you say about Canel0, he is still more proven and has more often taken more challenges than GGG. You should be asking instead, Why would GGG tell his fans that he will fight anyone between 154-168 only to refuse the real challenges calling him out in those weights.
    No, in my eyes both fighters had a reason, or an excuse why they refused to fight their mandatories, and both reasons can be justified and or criticized. AS I said in the beginning of this argument I'm just exposing YOUR double standard saying that Canelo ducked GGG, and giving GGG a pass for not fighting Derevyanchenko.

    See ya buddy.