Why were "small" men able to dominate the HW division?

Vitali healthy faced two blown up cruiserweights in Hide and Norris. They lasted a combined three rounds.

Well--make that three. He also faced a decent Adamek, and badly thrashed him in an excellent exhibition of skills and power, not losing a round!

You opinion that 40 pounds and significant range matters is correct.

Then you say Vitali is not immune to struggle against a smaller man. Carefully chosen words on your part! No one is immune, but I think Vitali is perhaps the single hardest match up for smaller men.

I find it very odd that you say Vitali is no more than a decent fighter. Please show me one heavyweight who was more dominant on the scorecards in terms of rounds won to round lost. I say this without being condensing. Here's a chance for one of us to learn something.

Yes Wlad has three stoppage losses in 66 fights. The first one was due to not pacing himself and him being ill. The other two were vs. big punchers. Wlad always faced men over 200 pounds. Some of these guys hit hard. No one is saying Wlad has top level chin, even though he always gets up.

The truth of the matter is many past great champions were KO'd by lesser punchers than Brewster or Sanders.

The truth of the matter is very few heavyweights have 66 or more fights with fewer than three KO losses.

The truth of the matter is many all time heavyweights were KO’d more often in a percentage sense.

 

Phelps ate around 10000 calories a day to keep his training regimen.

For further comparison, just as I was finishing my athletics career, people were finally figuring out that cutting weight in the sprints and especially the jumps was very important.

 

Michael Phelps was reported to have consumed 10,000 calories a day.
I'd take it with a pinch of salt though (no pun intended).

 

Some reports even had him eating 12,000 calories a day, and details of his meals explained it to be mostly solid food.

I don't believe it for an instant. His abdomen would be distended. He'd be weighed down by the all the kilograms of food and waste matter clogging up his stomach and his gut. There's not enough hours in the day to do all that eating ... and digesting ... and all the training necessary to burn it all off.
It was all good publicity though.

 

i'm not saying he did or didn't, but if that little guy can eat it all in one go it must be possible for a guy twice his size to eat it in a day. the pizza and french toast ect are very calorie full so it's not like getting all that from wheatabix.

 

This guy can do it :

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Dunno how well he swims though.

 

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I read about Phelps=& it was listed as 12,000 calories a day. He absolutely might be able to burn them, training like 7-8 hours a day.

But EATING all that, right all in solid foods & regular beverages like soda, seems very difficult. IF you drank much of it in high valorie weight gein shakes, & had it in ~ 6 or so meals a day, that is vastly easier & less bulky than eating 3 times a day only.

Was it a fraud? I recall believing it.

But if you DRINK weight gain/protein shakes with mucho carbs & fat, you can easily get 2000 calories right there. This is much much easier to do.

 

by then NORRIS was way past prime.in his prime he easily out boxed (with some knockouts) men up to 6'6" and over 230lb.he was boring but good and avoided.

 

Yeah. While I am sure he eats a lot I don't believe that to be true. People seem to believe everything they read.

 

Do you think heavyweight championship boxing used to be more of an endurance sport than it is now?

If it was why? Could it be that the endurance required leaner fighters? Has the the development in strength and mass phased out the endurance element at heavyweight?

I'm not entirely certain one way or another but I think the point is worth some consideration.

 

Yes I think that in the era of 20-45 round fights, it was more like an endurance sport, and I see that reflected in the training regimes of people like Fitzsimmons, Maher, Jeffries etc.

 

Yes but perhaps the training had not changed much between Jefferies and Dempsey? Champions from Dempsey to Louis and further into the 1960s or so were proberbly trained by guys from the same generation or there abouts.

I think old time training did not change much for many years. Even if a lot of chore stuff remains today like skipping, running, training in sets of rounds etc a lot of radical stuff has been going on over the last 30 years or so. And it is those 30 years where we have seen the most changes in size and the type of prowess of those with size.

 

I think that the reduction of the 20 round distance to 15, probably made a bigger difference than the reduction of the 15 round distance to 12.

That is perhaps something that gets lost in retrospect.