Why were these Durán fights never made?

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  1. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    While revisiting the masterclass Roberto Durán delivered against Esteban DeJesús in their third encounter, I came across an intriguing detail that went under AAALLL of my radars, even after countless viewings.

    Around the 20:40 mark of the Spanish broadcast (Mario Sánchez’s 60fps upscaled version of the fight), the commentator casually mentions that Durán had received two separate fight offers in the lead-up to that bout.

    The first offer, dated April 27, 1978, was reportedly for a $100,000 tax-free purse to face Puerto Rican legend Wilfred Benítez in a 10-round contest at Madison Square Garden. The weight division wasn’t specified, though it’s reasonable to assume it would have taken place at welterweight, potentially serving as a qualifier to challenge Carlos Palomino for the WBC and lineal titles.

    The second offer, also at Madison Square Garden, was even more lucrative: a $300,000 tax-free purse for Durán to defend his undisputed lightweight crown against the reigning WBC super featherweight champion, Alexis Argüello.

    Now one wonders. Why did Durán pass on these opportunities against two of the era’s most formidable fighters? Were the contracts declined by his team, or did negotiations collapse for other reasons? And why did he ultimately face Adolfo Viruet and Monroe Brooks instead, despite APPARENTLY having access to higher-profile and higher-paying bouts?

    Does anyone know the full story behind this?
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'm pretty sure Duran - Arguello was still on the cards when Arguello lost to Vilomar Fernandez. Duran then popped up in weight for good.
     
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  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    He also “ducked” Cervantes
     
  4. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Active Member Full Member

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    Real shame that Duran vs Arguello didn't get made. Same thing with Tommy vs McCallum.
     
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  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep. Duran really started to put on a lot of weight in-between fights and was rapidly moving away from a weight that was comfortable for AA. Heck, Duran all but skipped 140 completely and after Montreal, he had a hell of a time even making 147.
     
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  6. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran vs Arguello would have been fun no doubt. Tommy and McCallum wanted to fight but Manny steered Tommy clear of McCallum. Manny knew what McCallum was and the risk outweighed the reward.
     
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  7. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Active Member Full Member

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    Yehh I heard about that. After McCallum beat Milton and the other Kronk guys, Manny didn't want to risk the star of his gym against Mike. I personally think Tommy would have edged out a competitive decision as I think he's the best 154 pounder in history. But then again I think Mike is the second best so I'm pretty 60/40 about the matchup.
     
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  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Not sure on specifics but you can usually assume it was due to Eleta. He wouldn't let Duran fight Gato Gonzales either for some reason. There's some old threads on here from years back talking about it.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I dont think Duran had the mental make up to duck anyone
     
  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I agree, Cervantes was just a “great” fighter he sort of leap frogged as I understand it. Better money elsewhere… “ducked” is just something I used to read and find amusing, yes he ducked a 140lber but fought Hagler?
     
  11. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    $300,000 in 1978 is like $1.4 million today, that's a bit light to fight someone on the level of those guys, Crawford got $10 million to fight a past it Canelo
     
  12. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about Dura?Was there ever a chance of him meeting McCallum?
     
  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran ducked no one. Fighters from earlier era's loved to say they are the best, and prove it in the ring as much as they loved the money incentives.
    Nothing like the cherry pickers of the last10- 20 yrs.
    Sometimes fights simply don't happen. For many different reasons, usually just bad timing.
    I can think of so many that should've happened .
    Leonard vs Curry
    Hearns vs McCallum ( And I believe after studying both for years, Hearns wins this easier than most would expect, especially over 12rds ,a clear U.D for Hearns)
    Pryor vs Leonard.
    Gomez vs Arguello
    Sanchez vs Pedroza
    Mugabi vs Jackson
    And many, many more!
     
  14. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think he ducked him either. I just think he always wanted to move up in weight and Leonard was the payday at 147. I know Duran would blow up to nearly 200 pounds in between fights. Fighting Arguello at 140 or below was simply not as appealing as fighting Leonard at 147 for huge money. Duran feared no one.
     
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  15. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I'm guessing that Duran was already looking to move up when the Arguello fight came up. He ended up fighting Benitez and probably got a bunch more money for it.