Why Wilder don't want to fight Povetkin?

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  1. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I heard Wilder is trying to make all kind of excuses like Povetkin is in steroids etc. It seems Wilder is trying to do everything not to face Povetkin.
     
  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those comments were uncalled for and cheap for one professional to allege against a fellow member of their fraternity.

    The WBC has granted Wilder enough time for one more mandatory title defense. So I wouldn't call it a duck yet, although I was disappointed the WBC has made that ruling.

    What I don't understand is why not fight Povetkin now? Povetkin has clearly stated he wants the fight. They both fought recently so the fight lines up perfectly. And most importantly Povektin is the most money for Wilder. I understand some guys not wanting to face the mandatory because sometimes their are bigger fights to be made. But when you have a mandatory due AND it's the most money to me it's no brainer. You make the fight. Why risk the huge payday?
     
  3. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Wilder recently said that he doesn't want to wait for Povetkin.

    Povetkin says he's ready to fight Wilder next.

    Let's see what Wilder does now.
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah that makes no sense by Wilder or his team. When negotiating with Don King and Stiverne Wilder got two extensions to get the deal done. Here you have a fighter that wants the fight in Povetkin. Why doesn't Wilder go to the WBC, and ask them to move up the purse bid to get the fight made. The WBC has already shown they are more than willing to accommodate team Wilder.
     
  5. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There will be a purse bid in October. Wilder will get 75% of the purse. He'll probably get more money that route than a traditional negotiation. Furthermore, Wilder needs all the work he can get. Povetkin is a big step up for Wilder. Getting another fight in first, is a good move for Wilder. Povetkin spent years avoiding the fight with Wlad. Hopefully, Wilder doesn't do the same here. Wilder said he's looking forward to facing his mando. So if there is a purse bid in October, and the fight happens in early 2016, then it's all good. There's no reason to bash Wilder in the meantime.
     
  6. Beatle

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    Wilder would fight anyone, but Al Haymon is afraid for him and only puts him in the ring with slow defenseless plodders like Bermane Stiverne and Eric Molina.
     
  7. The Long Count

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    The way Wilder looked against Molina if I'm his handlers I make the fight with Povetkin. This smells like Tommy Morrison vs Lennox Lewis all over again. Morrison had a ten million dollar deal in place to fight Lewis but wanted more tune ups and lost to Michael Bentt for peanuts. Wilder is already 30yrs old with 34 fights it's time to sink or swim. If he fights another Molina or someone outside the top 20 the public is only going to get more frustrated and negative towards him. Antonio Tarver said today that Haymon is trying to maneuver him to fight Wilder next. I mean come on. Fight Povektin now, you win, you get paid handsomely and you silence the critics. You lose you can rebound.
     
  8. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can say the same thing if he fights him in early 2016. Wilder is the younger, less experienced, less refined fighter. There's no advantage to him trying to push the fight up. And why is he getting bashed for not lobbying to get the mando pushed up? Is Povetkin's side trying to get the mando pushed up? It makes to sense to me. And as far as public sentiment, Wilder isn't a very popular fighter anyway outside of his hometown. He already gets bashed all the time. Even if they did get the fight pushed up, you're talking October or November of this year instead of January or February of next year. That's a difference of a few months. Is it really that big of a deal?
     
  9. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    no he didnt lad.
     
  10. The Long Count

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    Povetkin was wrong to duck Wlad. I was critical of that too I just wasn't on these boards back then. Difference was Povetkin was challenging Wlad. You can't force a challenger to face the champ. But to be clear Povetkin did duck the fight for as long as possible.
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Time wise in terms of months it's not a huge deal. I'm saying as Wilder's management with his best interests at heart I would go for the biggest payday as soon as possible. I don't want to risk that big payday getting picked off by a guy I am going to make one tenth the payday against. I mean is one more fight, which is all he is going to get, going to prepare him for Povetkin? I doubt it would make big difference and you are risking a huge payday making it. You already got your cherry pick in Molina the next guy has to be much better than him.
     
  12. freddieMaize

    freddieMaize Active Member Full Member

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    As a boxing fan you should not be against good fights being made. I mean, what is the point of a boxing fight if there are clear favourites? What is the point in tuning to a fight when you already know what is going to happen.

    ****ing stop supporting such ***** moves like Wilder and Brook. Boxing dont need them.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I think Wilder is trying to over take Bowe as having the worst 2 title defenses of all time. There is no reason at this stage he should be fighting Molina type fighters. It is a disgrace.
     
  14. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But Povetkin wasn't the champion. With the belt comes the responsibility against the sport to defend it against the best. If you don't keep a belt you can fight who ever you want, then you "only" have your personal fans or sponsors to think about.
     
  15. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That'd be great!