Why Wlad Will Lose in '08

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by emanuel_augustus, Jan 29, 2008.


  1. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    Waldo haters are starting to reach now. I love it! :D

    Iggy: There is no way in hell he will jump wlad. He is gonna try to get the fight into the late stages and potshot to the body and hope wlad falls over. He wants wlad to attack him which is not his style. Wlad usually stalks and waits. Wlad tko 7

    Povetkin: He's just too hittable. He attacks in a straight line. Povetkin has to come forward and will walk into klits power. Wlad tko 5 if Povetkin has a good chin.
     
  2. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did, yes, but that version was 10-15 pounds overweight and tentative. Have you seen his earlier fights on the way up and against Whitaker? That version of Sultan was a sharp punching swarmer. Dangerous fighter.

    We haven't seen Sultan adopt that style since dropping back to his in-shape weight and dropping Panama Lewis. If he gets back to it, he can win.

    I think they both do. Ibragimov has crisp, stinging power when he applies it by coming forward, and Povetkin is a physically strong fighter who throws hard shots perfectly capable of taking you out. He stopped Byrd by attrition and put beatings on Donald and Chambers, both of whom were pretty much just there to survive.

    I'm not a Wlad hater, I'm a boxing fan. We'll see if it's a reach or not by the end of this year.
     
  3. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    fair point. styles do make fights and iggy is a counter-puncher. wlad only has issues with guys who pressure relentlessly and walk through his power. sultan will run but wlad will cut the ring off and unleash the thunder. i think the left hook will be the punch to end matters.
     
  4. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because people question Klitschko doesn't mean they're "haters". It's just that this guy's been labeled as this, that, and a third in the past and has let people down a bit more than once. Don't blame people now for doubting him.
     
  5. dragosuhail

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    yeah,

    i like your points. i still take wlad to dominate this year like previous year.

    wlad is big and powerful.... but i think the 3 things that are making him so unstoppable at the moment are:

    1. comfort with roughness. steward has gotten wlad to go from 10 rounds of sparring pre-fight to 100 rounds. been kronk-ified if you will. which in turn has made wlad a lot more relaxed.

    2. becaused wlad is more relaxed, and more experienced from his losses, his stamina is fine now.

    3. a big thing people overlook is his speed of foot and hand. he moves and punches quite fast when he wants to. when people complain that his opponents are standing right in front of him, it's not really their lack of trying, but rather wladimir's ability to cut off the ring and position himself constantly to deliver any punch he wants too.

    as for his two opponents this year. (and possibly thompson at end of year).

    1. ibrag IS faster, but whether he's aggressive (whitaker), or passive (briggs), he is simply facing way too much talent in the opposite corner. wladimir is bigger and hits harder than briggs... yet has tons more stamina and output. also sound boxing technique which will allow wladimir to land a LOT more than briggs ever did. briggs landed perhaps 2 big punches on sultan and ibragimov survived... yet how will sultan handle getting hit like that 20-30 times per round? also, to get one thing clear, based on what i've seen of sultan he is no where near the power puncher that corrie sanders was (and even still is). plus sanders had a faster left than sultan AND the size to reach wladimir easier.

    2. povetkin, might fair better against wladimir than sultan, but probably be about as successful as brock was. meaning he might create some awkward style problems early on and annoy wladimir a little. but once povetkin gets hit with 50 jabs in a round like brock, he will be open to right hands soon after. if chambers could swell up povetkin's face and make povetkin respect his limited power after a few rounds, what will wladimir's power, reach, output, speed and ring generalship do to him?

    3. thompson is nothing special, and by time he fights wlad he'll be around 36 years old. he doesn't seem to do anything special in the ring from what i've seen so will fair even worse than ibragimov and povetkin.

    and finally... sure wladimir has lost 3 times while povetkin and ibragimov are still undefeated. BUT! sometimes being undefeated can be a weakness. wladimir has learnt far more from those 3 losses, than povetkin and ibragimov have ever learnt from their wins combined.

    wladimir is in his prime, and a class above everyone atm. he will make this obvious when he dominates 2008
     
  6. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    how bout u hold back the commentary till u you've been here more than a month :yep

    wlad is one of the most unjustly criticized boxers here. and i was just razzing augustus cause i know he isnt a wlad fan
     
  7. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough, I'm not a huge fan, but not a hater either. I certainly respect him for what he's accomplished and the fact that he's come back strong from some bad knockout losses.
     
  8. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No need to take it personal. Just saying something in general about Klitschko and the general view of him.
     
  9. seldomseenslim

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    Can we bet on the fight then? I pick Wlad, and I'll even do you a favor and accept even odds, since you say the odds favor Wlad to lose. How much can we bet?

    Seriously though, I hope they don't rush Povetkin too much and put him in with Wlad so soon.
     
  10. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And for the record, although i admit i'm not a Klitschko fan, i DO in fact favor him to beat Ibragimov and i said on another thread the other day he will do something UGLY to Povetkin.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Yea, it was ******ed. I kept showing clips of him, as everyone was bashing on Wlad for fighting "bum". I was teling people that Brewser had great chin, and a lot of power. The were all saying that I was being a "klit hugger" and that I was hyping up Brewster to be a worthy opponent. Then... the night after they fought, every single one of them were calling Brewster the "Real" Champ, and saying that he was the best in the division.:patsch I am always honest about fighters... as honest as I can be. Just like I said that I thought Sturm would give Oscar some trouble, with Oscar fighting too heavy, and Sturm being very fast, and having a very good jab. Turned out to be the same verse as the Klitschko-Brewster deal.
     
  12. Heavyrighthand

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    Wlad destroys Povetkin even faster than he destroys Ibrag.
     
  13. Tro

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    Haye posseses many things but an air of invinciblity is not one of them.
     
  14. cardstars

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    That is ****ing hilarious :lol: . You think Haye has a better chance of beating Wlad??? :patsch
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Wlad is not invincible by any means, but neither Sultan nor Sasha are the guy to beat him (that guy hasn't become known to the public yet, if he's out there).