I'm being too nice now. This crap just never stops . . . it's just repeated bullshits all over again.
Why wont Pac give JMM another fight?......that is what this thread is titled..... ......why in hell are you in this thread if you dont want to discuss it. I'm discussing it and pointing out facts, and you want to blow it off by saying "get over it!" I'm in this thread talking about the thread topic.....if you chose not to want to discuss the thread topic, get the hell out and move on my friend!:deal Btw, there is still a month to go for the JMM-Casamayor fight. I'm sure I'll be in a few threads before then, but I dont see myself discussing that matchup at length. For those who care to know, I'm a huge JMM fan. I think with Mayweather retired, Marquez is P4P the best fighter in the world right now. ....but unlike Pac fans who made a big sting about Pac dominating a paper champion David Diaz.....I wont be making a big stink when JMM dominates a shot Joel Casamayor. I'm a JMM fan yes, but I'm more a realist and realize that Casamayor is far from the fighter that he used to be.......something that Pac fans cant hardly fathom when they discuss Pac's wins vs Erik Morales. When you see me beam from a JMM victory, it will be when he beats existing greats (not once great) fighters. A great victory for JMM for me will come when he beats the winner of Guzman-Campbell. So although I'm a JMM fan, that my friend is being a realist!!!!:deal Get out of this thread Sting, and go post in a thread you know something about!!!
REASONS! REASONS !REASONS! all in the name of avoiding bet! Nice try try buddy or I mean Nice try CHICKEN!!! :hi: like I said ! Put your money where your mouth is! if you want to make it one week, one month, etc...name it :deal
DEFENITELY YOU ARE BLINDED AND YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF IT! The GREATEST VICTORY of JMM was when he fought and won over MAB in his last stages of his career. Because of that he is the GREATEST P4P?!!! :huh Why won't PAC give marquez another fight?! He was GIVEN two chances already and he blew it! Pac's life DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND JMM. Defenitely JMM's life EVOLVES around PAC! For the RECORD! PAC does not NEED JMM. but DEFENITELY JMM needs PAC! Read it! Post! Live with it! That is the DIFFERENCE!!!!:yep
You're babbling my friend, because obviously you have'nt been on top reading this thread......where earlier I mentioned that Pac should avoid the best of the lightweights and come out financially on top by cashing out against either Hatton or DLH!......obviously reading comprehension has never been your strong point!
You really think JMM will ever grow balls to fight Guzman? Guzman called him out before, not a single sound came from JMM's camp, not even a clearing of throat :rofl JMM will never take that risk, I will apologize to you if he does. Pac is JMM's shortcut to fame. It is all too late for him now to be an ATG except for getting a win over Pac. Guzman is too much risk for him (at least JMM's camp think they have to righ tto think that way).
The fact above does not change buddy!!!! You still believe JMM is the best p4p! That is my point!. Sorry if I will sound sarcastic in my next question... How the hell can you say that Marquez is the best p4p after PBF retired?! Are you blinded?! Another thing you made mention was the fact that you feel Pac is being protected by the judges or something. I can very well see what you will say if CASA vs JMM fight became sooo close.. (we both expect JMM to win!) but if so happen that CASA wins by SD ONLY! I can assure you, you will say that the judge is incompetent or CASA is also protected... Ask yourself, when did you ever believe JMM lost?! So if the fight is close and JMM loses, WHY WILL YOU SUDDENDLY AGREE?! Your brain will say " it does not make sense!" we are cheated, robbed or the judge is INCOMPETENT!!!.... you are so predictable buddy! If you don't like the results...! One of the above is the reason :yep
I have just finished rewatching the 2nd fight, on the night I scored it by 1 or 2 rounds to pacman. Having rewatched the fight I had it 116 - 114 to JMM, the most i could change it to was 115-114 to JMM. I think another fight will come after pacman has made some more big money.
you are probably the only hardcore pac fan whos oppinion i respect. there is a reason that 95% of the posters were glad when pacdbest dissapeared. can you believe one of your compatriots actually wrote " if you people cant accept the sports as it is... then stop watching boxing". how can you have an adult debate with a kid like this who probably doesnt even like boxing.
LOL! Did I touch a nerve there? And who said you were straying off topic and talking about something else? Dont worry divac, you ARE on topic and giving your reasons why Pac won't give Marquez another fight. Its just that your reasons are so wrong on many different levels... and repetitive(no surprise there), I just found it funny. "Manny knows he's been stylistically dominated each time"? and "Pac is protected by the judges"? :roll: Yeah, really logical. You haven't even justified how JMM dominated Pac in the 2nd fight. And you have yet to even reply to me regarding that. Remember the "challenge" you offered to any Pac fans long ago about JMM dominating Pac? You remember how I took you up on that "challenge" and posted my scorecards and analysis on that fight? Where's the reply, mate? Yeah, figures. But don't worry, you don't need to reply to that. Just let me finish my university work here and I'll create a thread doing an RBR of some of the rounds of that fight where I thought Pac won. Unlike you, I'm gonna prove to you, regardless of who won that fight, how Pac gave JMM everything he could handle. The idea that Pac can play on JMM's level eats at you, doesn't it? Nobody's forcing you to change your mind and say Pac won that fight. I PERFECTLY understand if you think JMM won that fight. But JMM winning and DOMINATING that fight?? That's a different story buddy, that's PacDBest level of nuthuggery buddy. And regarding JMM-Casa. JMM >> Casa for me. So your attempts at trying to lump me with the other people who pick Casa, fail miserably. We'll see how you go in the next few weeks. We'll see if you'll be as enthusiastic posting in Casa-JMM threads as what your doing now in every single thread involving Pac and JMM. A fight that happened 5 months ago already :huh . As I said, let go of that anger divac. Focus yourself in the future, focus yourself on JMM's future. He has ALOT of interesting and awesome fights lined up ahead in the next year or so. Fights that would boost his ATG status and legacy. Don't dwell too much on the past, its unhealthy and your not really contributing much. I always respected you as a poster. But this charade your putting on lately, it has gotta stop. Your getting dull by the minute and that's not me insulting you that's me putting my 2 cents of advice for you. :good
:rofl :rofl :rofl What the hell are you talking about. I lead the JMM-Pac rematch discussions for days after it happened. From the day after the fight was fought, the theme coming from *******s has been "let it go, the judges made their ruling, accept it, Pac won!" :rofl For Christ sake, it was the day after the fight, and here I was in the forum fully outlining the reasons why JMM clearly won the fight, along with polls everywhere showing that the people thought JMM won..... ....but all most *******s in this forum could muster was to post to shutup, move on, and accept the verdict. Alot of these *******s wanted to move away from the discussion, and it was only the day after the fight!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl .....and nothing has changed since then.....most Pac fans would rather forget that the fight ever happened, and only reply to informative posts with "move on!":yep Btw my friend, if you look at my history of posts, you'll find that I've rarely even been involved in threads involving either JMM or Pac lately. ..... its ok to discuss it, thats what this forum is for, but believe me my friend, I've moved on and am looking foward to JMM vs Casamayor, for no other reason as to see how well he can handle a fighter who is well past his prime, but will be fighting outside the rules.:yep .....then hopefully, Pac either choses to fight real lightweight champions, or moves on to cashout vs Hatton or DLH......leaving JMM to attempt to cleanout the lightweight division before he calls it a career. If JMM-Pac 3 does'nt happen when it matters, believe me, everything is still a gonna be a OK!!!:good
Cause he doesn't have to right now. JMM proved he can hang with Pac, despite those knockdowns, he still survived the fight and made it close. Jmm deserves another attempt and so does the rest who are in line to fight him. JMM just have to keep busy till its his turn again. And dont give that JMM is getting old shi* cause Pac is not getting any younger too.
I am almost sure a third fight will happen once JMM shows real signs of getting old. Thats what Roach wanted in the first place. If the fight never happens then I will be very content to see Marquez succeed in the Lightweight division, becoming champion after blowing off Casamayor and winning an epic battle against Guzman, and then finally give us a great fight against the baby bull. Becoming the true undisputed lightweigh champion and everybody knowing he deserved the decision against Pacquiao will be real thrill.