Why won't the WBC make Wilder/Whyte?

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  1. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    It is criminal how Whyte hasn't got his shot yet.

    Why the big hold up?
     
  2. Southpawswitch

    Southpawswitch Active Member Full Member

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    Whyte is approximately 500 lbs overweight atm and would likely get ktfo if he got his shot anytime soon. The delay is actually a blessing in disguise.

    While Fury and Wilder do their thing, he can get back into shape and maybe actually stand a chance of winning by the time he actually gets his title fight made.
     
  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Whyte is hard puncher, Wilder hasnt fought one in his entire career and avoids them.like the plague (due to being droppped by low level journeymen in Nichols and Scroniers).
     
  4. gurmon

    gurmon Active Member Full Member

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    Boxing is generally broken. No one wants to prove thet are the best in the ring welterwieight onwards. Barring a few exceptions here and there.
     
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    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Usyk, GGG and Joshua are the exceptions to wanting to fight the best fighters in their division above WW.
     
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    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Wilder-Fury already agreed for Feb. They're both ready for that. Nothing about the fight with Wach suggests Whyte is going to be ready to fight Wilder by Feb. Whyte is the mandatory for the winner of that now anyway, so he'll get his shot. Personally more interested in seeing two of the top three fight anyway.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whyte needs 4 months max to get ready for Wilder

    I watched back Wach vs Whyte yday and while Whyte didnt perform his best he handled Wach well enough for a guy on three weeks notice and 30 pounds overweight and serious depression

    He also handled Rivas well without sleep for 48 hours prior and and NADP hearing on the same day as fight

    Whyte can handle himself perfectly no matter who he fights or how out of shape mentally and physicslly he is

    He fought joshua with an injured shoulder and out of shape too... on few weeks notice this guy will fight anyone anwywhere anytime ... its funny people say “whyte shouldnt have risked thr wach fight” all you guys ever do is complain how too fighters DONT TAKE RISK!!!!

    When he does prepare though... he is effing tough as they come... he can beat Wilder and AJ in good form

    But for Fury he will really need to think outside the box witha a gameplan I reckon come in very light like AJ
     
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    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder is the WBC's Passport to Al Haymon's millions. They wouldn't strip him in a million years. Hence he has got away with re-matching shot to bits ex opponents while Whyte has simply been sidelined having earned his chance 2 years ago. Wilder took a calculated risk with Fury. He is not a big puncher at world level and hadn't been in a real contest for 3 years. It's hugely frustrating but if Haymon can keep giving Wilder easy nights he's going to take them.
     
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    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha listen to these guys who want this to happen. It's a waste of time fight where Whyte's health should be taken into consideration as he'll get seriously hurt if they ever met in the ring. Maybe Whyte could face someone around his level next like Andriy Rudenko or Joey Dawejko.
     
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  10. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Al Haymon cannot let that WBC belt get into Eddie's hands.

    From his perspective allowing Wilder to face either AJ or Whyte just is not worth the risk.

    He would rather Wilder earn 1/6th what he could earn, so long as he has control of that belt. Wilder is dumb enough to let himself be played like this too.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder and Fury are the two best heavyweights. They are fighting for the second time in February. The winner will be recognized as the lineal champ by RING and be presented with their belt.

    Do you include Wilder and Fury in your exceptions?

    People are either bashing Wilder for fighting WBC contenders and not RING contenders. Then they bash Wilder for fighting the #1 Ring contender TWICE.

    They can't get out of their own way.

    When Wilder knocks out Whyte, they'll complain that the WBC had Whyte rated so high because he has looked like garbage and couldn't stop Allen or Helenius or Wach or anyone, really.

    It's a pattern.

    If no one has noticed.
     
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  12. Nick UK

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    The WBC clearly felt for years he was 'at his level' - they made him mandatory. No doubt due to brown paper envelopes and self interest they haven't enforced. They have made him mandatory again - in 2022!
    I am not 'anti' Wilder and can clearly see he has a very powerful right hand but it is obvious he has actively avoided any risky fights so as to avoid the risk of losing. His technique and ringcraft are poor - his footwork is bad as is his balance.
    The sad thing is he may well do well against a 'live' opponent like Whyte (or Joshua) but unless and until he actually steps in the ring with them it must be assumed he realises his own weaknesses and recognises he likely will be beaten. If so he is a coward plain and simple. Otherwise he would take the mandatory and smash these so-called level below fighters?
    I personally think Whyte would beat him. When interviewed he said -

    Whyte's assessment… Coward. Chicken. Yellow-livered hill-billy.
    It would be a tough fight because he is quite agile with awkward movement. I would expect a tough fight but I believe I can knock Wilder out.
    It wouldn't be a fight where I would jab my way in. I'd run at him in the first round and start brawling and, if I get chinned, then so be it.

    https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...yson-fury-alexander-povetkin-and-andy-ruiz-jr

    Seems to me that would be a good fight to watch - I dont think for a second that Wilder could take the heat
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Nah, your so deluded you don't even understand the criticisms.

    Look at Wilder's title defences.
    In 10 title defences, he has yet to face his number 1 contender once...
    He has only fought 2 mandatories in 4 years...
    He has never unified. In fact he's refused multiple offers to try.
    He's ducked at least 4 people.

    Look at his pre title run.
    He never fought a number 1 contender to get his title shot.
    He fought 30 bums...

    Look at his overall career.
    He has never fought a top draw chin.
    Never fought a top draw puncher.
    He's never beat an elite heavyweight.

    The man is 34 years of age. He won't be around much longer, so don't use the whole "we'll judge him when he's done" excuse. There's a reason his résumé is shite.

    The criticism is that Wilder's résumé is ****. It's not even up for debate.

    But he does seem more interested in actually fighting noteworthy opposition as of late.
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wilder Bodyguard Council

    Wilder Bogus Championship

    Whyte Blocked Challenger
     
  15. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on pal nobody wanted to see the Ortiz rematch.

    It's all good saying 'when' Wilder beats Whyte. In reality that fight should of happened yrs ago. If it's an easy win for Wilder then why haven't his team and the WBC made the fight. It's a bigger fight than the Ortiz rematch
     
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