Why would any Brits want Earl or Thaxton to beat Khan

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by robpalmer135, Nov 21, 2007.


  1. Danny Boy

    Danny Boy New Member Full Member

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    I'd hate to see Khan lose because he has the opportunity not only to be a flag ship for British Boxing but also to maybe tahe some of the edge out of the attitude towards Muslims that the country currently has. Just like McGuigan united the Irish - Khan could unite the English.

    Earl is a test of his chin but Thaxton would have been a nightmare for Khan at this stage of his development. In 3 or 4 more fights Khan would be able to handle Thaxton.

    I'd like to see Khan win but humbled a little. His comments after Limond knocked him down worried me. He sounded a bit like Naz and that road leads to oblivion.
     
  2. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    I recall Khan calling out and being disrespectful towards his british lightweight rivals around the time of his 12th fight earlier this year - insulting some established boxers who had achieved more in the sport than he had was bound to get a response from them.
     
  3. Danny Boy

    Danny Boy New Member Full Member

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    You're right... like I suggested before he's sounding more like Naz all the time. If he's doing it to sell fights I can understand it it but there's a line you don't cross. Confidence is one thing arroganve is totally different. That's why I'd like to see someone like Thaxton (a guy I admire for being a true down to earth British fighter) give him a gentle reminder ( a left hook to the head would do) that respect costs nothing but means a lot.
     
  4. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I recall his rivals calling him out by his 1st pro fight!
     
  5. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Can you back this up?

    I genuinely don't recall (was two and a half years ago) so please elaborate.
     
  6. madpup

    madpup Active Member Full Member

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    The hate for him is way over the top. He does tend to be a bit cocky, but look at someone like Carl Froch, who is way worse. I dont see anyone willing for him to lose to Inkin. Also and this is unfortunate, the guy is very young and any person getting so much hype at a young age, is likely to have success go to his head somewhat.

    Khan's record for his number of fights is better than any of the great current British fighters.

    Also so many young British boxers have been highly disrespectful to him and they havent achieved **** compared to him. I remember O'Donnel mouthing of before a fight in the US 'I will show America what a world class lighweight British prospect is like'..only to be knocked out by a journeyman in the third round (I think).

    I respect the fact that Khan is pushing Warren to give him tough fights at this stage of his career, how many other fighters did you see do that? If Warren had his way, Khan would still be fighting no-hopers.
     
  7. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Not sure that quote from O'Donnell is accurate - doesn't he fight at welterweight and was facing a fighter who usually fights at light middleweight in the States? He did come a cropper that night though unfortunately.

    It was the lightweight fighters who responded to Khan's challenge to step up and face him before its too late. To put this in context, he was saying this BEFORE he even had a really notable win on his record (Limond).
     
  8. madpup

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    I was going on memory...so got it slightly wrong, this is taken from the bbc article:

    The 21-year-old said: "I'm going to show the American's what a world-class British prospect really looks like. "I know I'm in a different league to Khan. People will realise that soon."

    He then proceeded to get knocked out in the second round by someone who lost 11 out his last 15 fights.
     
  9. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    Yes he's a welterweight, and he did say that he would show how a british prospect is supposed to fight, words to that effect, and he did go on to say that he was at another level compared to khan and khan wouldnt last 3 rounds if they both met in the future, as to the opponent who humiliated him on that fateful night he was a journey man who was recently out boxed by a 16 year old kid
    the hype hennsely was giving these 2 fighters was rediculous, both murray and odonnel underperformed against less then average opponents that night,
     
  10. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    I agree O'Donnell underperformed that night but he is still young so hopefully he can bounce back. He is a fighter who is known to start slowly and got caught very early in that fight - he learned a hard lesson.

    As for the other fighter you mention - Murray must have impressed someone with that 7th round knockout as he has top billing in Vegas on 7th Dec and will gain valuable exposure in the States as it will be televised.

    I like to give these young fighters some credit for stepping out of their comfort zone.

    On another note Faisal - would appreciate a response about a post you made in the 8th December thread.
     
  11. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    i don't understand your question.how can national pride come into this when we're talking about 3 english fighters?
     
  12. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps Floyd didnt recieve the same criticism as Khan at this stage, but then again, Floyd had bags more potential (not to mention the fact that PBF didnt get floored by a part time fighter who mostly operated a weight division below )

    In fact, I cant believe that some people are even puttin A mere Khon in the same sentence as PBF
     
  13. IronBull

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    Floyd didnt recieve the same criticism because not many people had internet that time.. that is why.
     
  14. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With or without internet criticism was just as regular back then (you must be a young un lol )

    Khan gets the abuse due to the fact he claims to be the best in the world at his weight even though he hasnt met anyone with half an eggcup of talent at lightweight yet.

    Juan Diaz is the main man of the division imo.....I'd love to see the over-confident young twat tell him he's the best
     
  15. achillesthegreat

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    Warren will let his fighter fight depending on his confidence in him. For example Calzaghe was British champ and was going to take on top 10 168 in Collins and then replaced him with a top 10 168 in Eubank. Warren clearly thinks high of Calzaghe and always called out Jones, Hopkins, Ottke etc Hatton on the other hand looked good but not great and Warren admits he thought this. Naz looked amazing and thus he developed a great featherweight. Look at Arthur, Earl etc they are good but not WOW. Warren monitors their career perfectly.

    My beef with Warren is the fact he brings in the WBU to hold fighters off of world title honours but claim they are champs. He also uses the belt to stop them fighting top domestic opposition.

    I think its clear that Warren thinks Khan is good but he doesn't really think he is the next Floyd, hence the reason hes put him in with top comp but no punchers and no MAJOR step ups like WBO title shot now.