Why would anyone be shocked by any athlete being on PEDs in this day and age?

It's not that easy cheating tests. If it were, people wouldn't get caught. Getting stuff is easy sure, especially when half the crap isn't even illegal.

DHEA.

Its legal in the US but is banned in other countries. It's a drug that boosts the production of testosterone. Last I heard WADA didn't have a solid means of detecting it, but the French AFLD have been using a hair follicle test. French law permits hair testing.

"DHEA is the acronym for dehydroepiandrosterone, a hormone produced naturally from cholesterol from the adrenal glands of males and females. It is a precursor to the male sex hormone testosterone.

DHEA was first identified in 1934 and was sold over the counter mainly as a weight loss aid until the late 1980s. Then the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classified DHEA as a drug, making it available by prescription only. The FDA reversed itself in 1994, reclassifying DHEA as a dietary supplement obtainable without a prescription."

 

Good point. If you look close enough, you'll find money is the reason behind just about everything.

 

Yeah, I talk about this some in my previous post which you haven't gotten to yet.

 

I'm not shocked there is some crazy **** out there, Lab are always developing **** to stay ahead of the testing.

 

Although i think Mayweather is completely out of line in his requests people definitely seem to be under the impression that hardly anyone uses PEDs, which is naive. The majority also seem to mistake the effectiveness of drug testing, an endless number of athletes get around it.

Even at the lowest levels of sports PEDs are prominent. I box with a cyclist mate and PEDs pretty much run rampant starting with some pretty young blokes. Its easy to get it, and in the lower levels its perfectly easy to get away with. These are the guys who likely turnout to be the next national representative level athletes. Its easy to see how the attitudes encouraging it form and carry on into the elite levels of sports. When theres more at stake, theres also more funding and more emphasis on ensuring it isn't detected. The guys making the gear are always going to have the advantage of being a step ahead of the guys designing tests in response.

 

A lot of accounts of passing drug tests are anecdotal. Dude goes in for office job drug test and passes, and he thinks I was on roids, booyah score.

I look at the top level in cycling, and I see the massive list of dopers caught. It's a big list with the biggest names in cycling, Landis, Valverde, Ricco, Hamilton, Vino, Rasmussen, etc. That's a lot of people caught and that's just off the top of my head and not including all the blokes I don't pay attention to.

All the rest its just speculation, same as the way they talk of Armstrong. Every dick and jane has a theory on Armstrong, but he's never come up positive, ever. Even in 2005 when WADA tried to smear his name with faked positives. <<--- Seriously, no **** they tried to bull**** the world and fake tests making him look like a doper.

I'm just rambling now, but I had a point somewhere...

 

Landis swears he was clean. Again, no expert on the subject but I've heard the stuff he supposedly tested positive for made no sense. Couldn't get Armstrong so they got him instead? I don't even know if you can trust the testers. OK. Tin foil hat time.

 

It's with a grain of salt that we accept what the anti-dopers say. We also have to acknowledge that the anti-dopers want to catch dopers, that's their J.O.B. It's a necessary evil. If they didn't have a passion for it, they wouldn't catch people, but on the flipside, they can cross that line as well.

Here, for your tin foil hat time, google wada+faked+tests.

 

bed time.

 

As someone who knows a doctor who works for The Giants, it's very bad.

Ultimately I guess it just ruins the mystique of the story. Sort of like a great war movie....how would you feel if the hero was on God Mode the entire movie and couldn't get hurt? It just seems to kill the drama I guess.

 

I seriously doubt that pain-killer abuse will ever stop, especially in the NFL.

You remember players like Favre, who struggled with addiction, or players like Roger Craig, who's never missed serious playing time despite playing FB and HB, yet lost his stomach lining after taking a prescription painkiller for much, much longer that was advised.

 

Yeah I hear ya. The guy used to tell me horror stories of players in their early to mid 30s needing wheelchairs to get around after games.