Why would anyone fake being ko'd when

Those advertisements have been causing issues for several years now. The complaints have been out there for quite some time, yet nothing is ever done about it. Why not? Easy. Advertising is more important than boxer safety.

 

The ******s are out today!!!!

Dirrell had plenty of reason to "Fake" the KO.... but he had NO reason to fake delirium after the fight. That fool thought he got KOd and lost the fight and was all emotional, even when they were trying to tell him he won.

The little piece where he brings his gloves to his face a split second after he was hit was an instinctual reaction... He never saw the shot coming and it connected cleanly with his jaw.

I can't ****in stand Andre Dirrell, ever since he brought a bicycle to the Curtis Stevens fight and wouldn't get off it... But the guy was clearly and obviously ****ed up by that punch...

 

By no means was Dirrell faking it. That said, we were all robbed of an exciting 4.5 minutes by a very unfortunate event. Dirrell was nearly out of steam and Abraham had been tagging him cleanly up around that juncture. Who knows how it might have ended? Oh well, best of fortune in Dirrell's recovery, and I hope he can come back from this in healthy fashion.

 

Finish the sentence: "... we were all robbed of an exciting 4.5 minutes by a very unfortunate event BY ABRAHAM."

Your post makes it sound like an act of God. Abraham hit a downed opponent intentionally and rightfully was disqualified. Maintaining composure is a big part of the sport, as we famously saw in Leonard/Duran II.

Abraham lost because he deserved to lose. Justice was served, I just wish Dirrell didn't have to go through all that in the process.

 

Your post makes it sound like I was absolving Abraham of hitting a downed opponent. As I've made clear numerous times, Abraham deserved to be disqualified. Save the sermon for someone else.

 

Here's my problem with your previous post:

"Dirrell was nearly out of steam and Abraham had been tagging him cleanly up around that juncture. Who knows how it might have ended?"

This implies that a hard-charging Abraham was derailed by some outside force.

My point remains that Abraham tagging him cleanly is irrelevant given Abraham's choice to exit the competition. These issues are not separate; the same pressure driving him to bother Dirrell also was causing Abraham to become unhinged.

It's not an "if only" as you imply — it's a "because."

If you don't understand that distinction, maybe you need more time nestled in the pews.

 

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1. Dirrell absolutely was running out of steam and Abraham had been hitting him cleanly as it got late in the fight. We don't know how it might have ended, which is unfortunate since it was such high drama.

2. Abraham was on a run at that point, and I never implied it was an outside force that stopped Abraham. Abraham hit an opponent who was down and was rightly disqualified. I've said that before. You misinterpreted this, and that's on you.

3. Whether Abraham became unhinged or not is absolutely irrelevant as far as my post. Abraham was getting closer and Dirrell was fading. That's a fact and has nothing to do with any other condition in the fight, including the fact that Abraham was rightly disqualified.

4. You're really reaching about what I've implied by my posts. I've left nothing to question if you've read my posts. It's clear that you're emotional over the issue and it might be advisable for you to take a day or two to come back down.

5. Sure thing.

 

2 girls and an mma fan thought he was faking it huh? ok

 

You never saw Tyson it Holyfield's ear off?

But that was a really bad foul and no Dirrell was not faking it.

 

1. Yes, it was unfortunate for Dirrell. But a guy quitting and taking the coward's way out offers just as much resolution as a guy getting knocked out, only worse because it damages the victor unfairly.

It's like saying we were robbed of potential suspense in Hagler/Hearns, because the unfortunate event of Hearns getting knocked out robbed us of that suspense. It really is that ludicrous to make the argument you're making here.

2. I didn't misintepret this. Abraham's success was due to the same desperate pressure that caused him to melt. You cannot disentangle his successes from his ultimate and definitive failure as you're attempting.

3. See No. 2. Abraham was pushing forward with all his energy to win and bothering Dirrell, but that same push contributed to his downfall. It's absolutely relevant.

4. I don't think I'm reacting irrationally, but definitely it did (and does) bother me. But those here (not you, obviously) making posts about Dirrell faking are the ones who need time away.

It's just a pet peeve of mine for people to assess a fighter's decision to foul apart from his opponent. Tyson bit Holyfield largely because Holyfield had Tyson's number. Abraham fouled Dirrell because Dirrell had Abraham's number.

Abraham's foul was not independent of Dirrell's success in the fight but rather a manifestation of it. That's where you appear to be mistaken.

 

1. Not the same thing at all. Hagler vs. Hearns reached a natural conclusion. Abraham vs. Dirrell did not in the sense that it is unfortunate that it ended by disqualification rather than on points or a legitimate knockout. It's unclear why you can't understand that.

2. No, you did misinterpret my post based on you asserting that I implied something which I did not.

3. Yes, Abraham pushing forward and throwing punches at all costs lead to him punching a Dirrell who was on the canvas already and had him disqualified. It is still unfortunate that we never got to see how the fight might have played out had that happened.

4. People suggesting Dirrell is faking his injury are likely just trolling. He clearly had brain trauma based, if nothing else, on his brief interview in the ring where he couldn't tell up from down. I'm not one of those people.

5. Very different situations. While you can say that Tyson was looking for a way out, I don't believe Abraham was looking for a way out. It's not as if it was a premeditated attack as in, "I'll wait until he slips and sock him one." If Dirrell doesn't go out cold, Abraham takes an insignificant point deduction and continues pressing for a knockout and possibly gets it. He was looking to inflict any damage he could, for better or worse.

6. Yes, Abraham was at a desperate point in the fight and fouled Dirrell because he was out of time in the fight to wait around. That's fine and good. Regardless, I would have loved to see things play out if there were no disqualification. It was a terrible ending to an exciting fight. Again, it was an unfortunate ending. Dirrell slips more than any fighter around, so I suppose you could also say that particular foul is a manifestation of Dirrell always going down in the heat of the moment. I don't care to say that, but if you're going to suggest that Abraham was looking to foul, you can just as easily say Dirrell was looking to give him the opportunity. If Dirrell had stayed on his feet rather than slipping around the ring as he did against Froch, that foul never would have happened. At this point we're falling into a ridiculous argument, which wasn't my intention.

 

I would much rather have someone bite my ear than cold-**** me clean.
A shot like that can permanently ruin a fighter.

AA should be kicked out of the tournament. They(Showtime) are probably working on that right now.

 

There's no way they take Abraham out of the tournament. Like it or not, they got the one thing that is a surefire to breed excitement and buzz: controversy. Abraham is now the dark figure in the tournament that people will tune in to see lose.

 

UFC fighters don't punch with leverage and power, they throw slappy arm punches and usually the guy underneath them is looking and expecting to be punched. If you don't see a punch it does so much more damage.

I'm starting to think that the morons saying Dirrell faked it are UFC fans, it would make alot of sense.