Why Would Joe Fight Hopkins Again?

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  1. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    that would equate to something like reigniting with an old flame just one last drunken time who gave as good as she got but in the end was ultimately unfulfilling and left a nasty after taste in ones mouth for many reasons ghonorhea being one..

    yes it was dirty,it was it was intense,it was forbidden and the slight age gap was the clincher that made it all the more interesting but come the dawn and cold light of day you got your ****,did what you had to do and split leaving her wanting more and wondering if only she had pushed a little harder,used her head a little less,adapted to his insatible pace or maybe he realised she was just flat out faking it at times...

    while you are at home wiping yourself down with a wry smile,she like many before her is crying into her pillow thinking oh well il give kelly a ring.

    excuses iv heard so far:

    -joes facial expression following the fight
    -the "white boy"comment
    -hopkins wasnt conditioned right(which is funny because beforehand it was common knowledge he was in the shape of his life)
    -corteez,the judges,ledderman,foreman etc are all biased
    -he won due to cleaners shots (all 4 of them)
    -and now a jones comment being blown out of proportion

    people overlook the fact joe was fighting in america,new weight etc for the FIRST TIME against a dirty masterful tactician and was able to neutralize and work him out like no one ever has from round 4 onwards,but no he gets no credit what a shocker!


    Chuck Giampa: 116-111 Calzaghe; 9-3 rounds for Calzaghe
    Ted Gimza---: 115-112 Calzaghe; 8-4 rounds for Calzahge
    Adalaide Byrd: 114-113 Hopkins; 6-6 rounds tie

    Harold Lederman (unofficial card)
    116-111 Calzaghe; 9-3 rounds for Calzaghe

    Two of the three official judges gave 7 of the final 8 rounds to Calzaghe.
    JOE WON,ACCEPT AND MOVE ON.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It would be stupid for Joe to fight Hopkins again. Hopkins landed all the clean shots and was able to cutdown on Joe's workrate. Joe had to really grind in order to convince the judges he won. It's no surprise that he doesn't want a rematch. There's nothing for him to gain.
     
  3. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    **** so by your theory if hopkins hadnt have cut his workrate down as he supposedly did then we would be renaming him the tazmanian devil by now,dread to think what he would be like at full tilt.

    lol.
     
  4. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wouldnt blame calzaghe for not taking it every fight gets more dangerous for him because its obvious he's losing his desire to box
     
  5. theghostbuster

    theghostbuster Member Full Member

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    good point, but i think the whole fight was an anti climax, there was a massive build up for this fight and it turned out to be very poor quality. i think there are alot of people who feel a bit let down over the whole performance as nither one clearly won, and as a massive b-hop i would like to see a rematch but can completely understand this being unpopular.
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Very true. You don't go 12 rounds with someone you can barely put your gloves on and want to repeat the experience. Joe Calzaghe has been sulking about his performance against Hopkins ever since. He can't go a single interview without making a reference about it. Most recently Calzaghe has been saying that maybe he "underestimated Hopkins." Steve Bunce said that what Hopkins did to Calzaghe was "a master class."

    Do some of the people who post here think we don't watch WWOOOOOOOOODDDYA's youtube channel?? The lies and the bull**** on ESB are ridiculous. The way that Hopkins/Calzaghe is percieved in the UK is far different from how the con artists on this forum try and make it seem. There's no question why Calzaghe doesn't want Hopkins again. None.
     
  7. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    bunce source please?

    yes im a subscriber to woody myself

    and how is it percieved?i myself am a brit who moves in lets say "boxing circles" the general perception is joe won which he clearly did,
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    The "master class" reference is in one of the more recent Setanta shows where Steve is sitting at the anchor with that young kid doing breakdown, review, and preview. Find your way through them on
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    . No, the general perception is that Calzaghe may have "nicked it" on workrate, but he was embarrassed by a superior fighter. That's what all the Johnny Nelson types, and that Scottish fella types have clearly incated. And when I say 'types' I mean the lot of those experts on various networks, radio, broadcast, ect - as well as a great many number of fans calling in, posting on youtube, and other forums.

    Even here, despite the nationalistic nonsense and great need to put the Yanks in their place, nobody wants to talk about Calzaghe's phantom punches. Nobody. All the smart people know the score here. There's just alot of bull**** that doesn't stick. And it stinks.
     
  9. DINAMITA

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    **** thread. As usual. :-(
     
  10. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    If I want your opinion, I'll ask you to fill out the necessary forms.

    must you troll me like you do bernard?

    :lol:
     
  11. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and a masterclass it was indeed he cut calzaghes workrate almost in half didnt let calzaghe put punches together, tied him up at will and negated his speed. He negated all of calzaghes main strengths
    even if you argue that joe won which you can if you favour high workrate over clean effective punching you can't argue that hopkins was the better fighter...all the quality and intricacies came from hopkins
     
  12. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    objective rationale right there.

    lol.
     
  13. Wordup

    Wordup Big Stiff Idiot Full Member

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    it goes both ways though doesn't it? Lets be honest there is a number of things that could lead Hopkins performance to be described as bull**** aswell.
     
  14. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    a number?

    more like a frigging catalogue.
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Hopkins deserved to lose as far as I'm concerned, and to his credit I think he knows it. He didn't spend hardly any time complaining, and he walked out of the post fight press conference in a truly independent manner. However, in actuality Hopkins landed more shots and genuinely won the fight. Not to confuse, but I know he won, and I'm glad that he lost.