Whyte is the biggest hype job in HWD and will badly exposed by Parker!

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  1. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I'm doing the same with Luis Ortiz
     
  2. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    1. This isn't correct as i mentioned before. Whyte is hyped up at here since he destroyed Browne and and he is hyped up by the media/Eddie (of course).
    2. Yes, i am a Ortiz fan, but i am not biased or writing fanboy bull**** talk like Ortiz will crash AJ ....blabla. Ortiz will beat everyone outside the Top 5 easily, yes, that's my point of view but this is simply the truth.

    This guy has 29 pro fights and never lost a round apart from two fights (Jennings, Wilder)....
     
  3. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    In the first place, YES. In the second, NO.
     
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    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    If you ignoring a legit Top 5 HW then you are a bum. Simple as that.
     
  5. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Dude Ortiz is 40 years old and nobody had a damn clue who he was until he was like 38

    People who had options on big money fights didn't want to deal with a 40 year old Cuban with no resume or fanbase, correct.

    But Ortiz has nobody to blame but himself for not being a bigger name. He left his run to late and will go down as a loser who tried hard in his one title shot thats it.
     
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    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Dudes only win is bye bye, who himself aint ****

    You call whyte a bum or whatever and luis is this epic heavyweight but dillian has a better resume than ortiz.

    Face facts ortiz is a 45 year old hype job bum with one B- level win
     
  7. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    1. If you knew Ortiz for 1-2 years then you might be simply not that interested in boxing.
    2. I agree on the big money fight argument, yes. Too risky, too low outcome.
    3. No. He will go down as one of the best Cuban amateurs in his generation, one of the most dangerous guys in the HWD and as a world class skilled southpaw.
     
  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    LMAO
    Whytes resume is almost equal to Ortiz', prob even worse.
    Joshau = Wilder , both having one
    Apart from that Jennings, Scott and Thompson are prob better than everyone who fought Whyte in the past apart from Chisora who was in good shape for the fight but still past his prime like Scott and Thompson were too
     
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    Ortiz didnt even win **** as an amateur and no, i dont have time to follow the north american domestic level heavyweight scene.

    He will not go down as anything, even someone like an andrew golota had better wins.

    Golota > ortiz
     
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    Thankyou i can go chill for the rest of the night.
     
  11. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I never wrote Ortiz resume is much better, it's an equal thing, i think Ortiz has the slightly better resume right now and Whyte will have the small edge after fighting Parker.

    Top 4 opponents in both resume for me
    Ortiz: Wilder, Jennings, Scott, Thompson
    Whyte: Joshua, Chisora, Helenius, Browne

    So what we have? Both fought one world title holder (#1, #2), both having one good/solid win apart from that (Jennings, Chisora) and both fought some past prime fighters but Scott and Thompson are superior to Helenius and Browne imo

    If you really say Whyte has the much better resume then you do not know a **** about boxing.
     
  12. Vykus

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    You say calling someone a bum is one dimensional then in the next paragraph you call Whyte a bum lol. For the record i called niether Ortiz or Wilder a bum, and i like them both. But facts are facts. Ortiz is not the same fighter that beat Jennings, Scott etc, hes declined very rapidily the last couple years, is ill with a heart condition, approaching 40, his leg and body movement is almost shot and he gassed bad vs Wilder after he couldnt put him away. Wilder has never had very good boxing skills, hes great at using his height to throw punches at very awkward angles, sitting back waiting for an opportune time to land his powerful right, and very athletic, but lets be honest, Wilder has never fought a contender in his prime. Wilder waited for Ortiz and Povetkin to age just like the rest of them, and after Ortiz won most of the rounds, hes lucky he finally caught Ortiz. If Washington, someone his height/reach gave him trouble, T.Fury and Joshua would eat him up, with their chins Parker and Miller would give him fits. T.Fury and Joshua are the elite, they are a class above the rest. But Wilder is in the mix with the next 5 guys.
     
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    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I agree with most of your points, absolutely right, calling Whyte a bum was a bit too emotional, he isn't a bum, but he isn't a legit Top 10 either but still ranked inside because of the weak names around. But i do not think Ortiz is declining much! I do not think his appearance vs Wilder was worse then vs Jennings. I watched both fights several times and he looked great in both. Of course he looked a bit better vs Jennings but he fought different there because Jennings is featherfisted and Wilder has the windmill bomb. But he was moving well vs Wilder even in the late rounds, he did one big mistake and that was not using his uppercuts at the point Wilder was hurt badly.

    I also think AJ and Fury are one class above (Fury over AJ also), but i think Whyte hasn't done anything of notice in his whole career apart from beating some old and shot guys like Helenius, Browne, Lewison ...AND he hasn't the style, skills to be a real contender imo. The mixture of having a cooked resume and missing skillset is obvious and he should be exposed badly by Parker. This isn't even 50/50, this feels like 90/10 Parker and should be 70/30 in real.
     
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    I still think Wilder beats Whyte, Parker beats Whyte, but i think Whyte beats Ortiz. I know hes only lost once, to Wilder as well, and is very skillful, but just think hes at that stage of his career where age catches up to everyone and tough,big and skillful enough top 15 guys in their prime like Whyte, Miller, Parker, Brezeale can start picking him off.
     
  15. Infern0121

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    I agree

    Look, Ortiz had some ability but he left it far too late.

    His performance vs Wilder wasn't that amazing, at the end of the day everyone outboxes Wilder until he kos them.

    But more to the point, he's old and he's a 6 round fighter at this stage, he was gassed to hell after 6 vs wilder and that was fighting at his own pace, it was not a furiously paced fight at all.
     
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