Whyte v Chisora 3

08Horacio08 · Mar 30, 2023

Enjoying these logical posts by redbeard and the others who are politely arguing their points. Never mind the hypocritical gaslighter(s) mate the ignore button is great!

SeanB1 · Mar 30, 2023

EJC83 said: ↑

"The first fight was brilliant" - Yeah that was getting on for six and a half years ago

"The second fight was good too" - That was four and a half years ago

Jesus Christ, these guys are totally shot. I don't know how many times I've said it but have you ever been in a fried chicken shop in London at around 3am and all of a sudden a couple of wannabe gangsters kick off? That's these two, Chicken Corner Brawlers, they're rubbish. This won't be entertaining, it will be the same overdone build up, same crap beef, same stupid voices, stupid faces, stupid haircuts, stupid fake personas and at the end of it we'll have two lumps swinging wildly and gassing. Whyte was getting outboxed by Chisora in the second one ffs. I can't handle watching another overhand right from Chisora, he has one win in his last 5 and that was a total gift.
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He's so slow now too it's like watching slo mo highlights. He's a caricature now.

BrokerNYC · Mar 30, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

"Wilder proves himself not coward in a ring?"

By not quitting when the going got tough, as Joshua did against Ruiz and not looking to KO in the rematch after the most humiliating defeat ever. Ortiz also got dropped multiple times by Ruiz, he got up and kept on boxing even though his 43 year old legs were betraying him. Went 12 rounds and won a majority of the rounds on the cards (19/36) despite your prediction of Ruiz KO'ing him.

The 30-0, 38 year old Ortiz that Wilder fought first time would have schooled or stopped Ruiz, everyone knows it. Even the Wilder 2 Ruiz would have outboxed him, which is why Ruiz tried to duck 43 year old 2 KO defeat Ortiz to sign with Triller and fight kickboxer Spong in Mexico instead.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/4/...uiz-jr-fighting-tyrone-spong-boxing-news-2022

Wilder will go for broke if things aren't going his way, whereas Joshua would rather cruise to a points decision even though he's losing. We saw this clearly in the Fury-Wilder trilogy and the Usyk-Joshua fights.

Joshua has NO HEART compared to Wilder. Also an inferior chin to Wilder: Fury has stopped Cunningham, Chisora, Hammer and Whyte in addition to Wilder x2, whereas Ruiz has stopped no one worth talking about, save Joshua.

Whyte got KO'd cold in his backyard in 5 by a horribly diminished Povetkin who was one fight away from being a far lesser fighter than prime Dave Allen (based on their respective performances against Whyte), you can scratch that clown from the list for a start. Chisora just said that 44 year old Ortiz was a "hard night at the office", implying that Whyte isn't by comparison. If Whyte was serious then he'd have been able to land at least one meaningful headshot over 6 rounds against Fury before getting one-shotted.

Hearn/Joshua never offered Wilder 50-50 because they weren't that keen on the fight, it was all about manipulating public perceptions and fighting tame gatekeepers like Takam and Parker in the meantime, the Ruiz fight was a huge blunder against a 25/1 underdog who they believed was featherfisted and useless. Takam hasn't KO'd or KD'd any of his 10 best opponents, Parker hasn't KO'd any of his best 11, including Cojanu (KO'd in 2 by Ortiz the fight after) and Fa (KO'd in 1 by Browne the fight after). These were fake opponents in reality.

8/9 of Joshua's last opponents have been light punchers because Hearn has no confidence in Joshua's chin or heart when hit by some big bombs.

Team Wilder did avoid Wlad in 2015 and Povetkin in 2016, imo. Most of the others you mention are risible or very questionable to say the least. And since 2018 Wilder's fought very strong opposition consistently.

Why did Whyte fight unknown Forrest SD Franklin over notable Fury opponent Wallin? Why did he duck the fight?
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I love this forum… High level banter here

GDM74 · Mar 30, 2023

I’ve not read the replies on this thread - assume it’s gone way off track!!!
But Whyte v Chisora. I’ll watch it, how can you not(unless it’s PPV of course!)
A nice retirement fight for them both.

BoxingAddick · Mar 30, 2023

08Horacio08 said: ↑

Enjoying these logical posts by redbeard and the others who are politely arguing their points. Never mind the hypocritical gaslighter(s) mate the ignore button is great!
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literally a full grown man complimenting his other alt

BoxingAddick · Mar 30, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

The one Fury landed which put pudding Whyte on Bambi legs.

Wilder was dropped once in 43 fights prior to Fury 2. How many times was Wlad dropped by low level journeymen? Actually, Wlad got stopped by a journeyman.

Who has Ruiz ever knocked down 4 times in a fight aside from Joshua? Who has he ever stopped. A nice collection of glass chinned bums.

Ortiz (KO'd Jennings in 7, Allen in 7, Cojanu in 2, Thompson in 6, Page in 8) was a power puncher. Fury (KO'd Cunningham in 7, Chisora x2 in 10, Hammer in 8, Whyte in 6) has a massive KO threat when he wants to fight that way. Stiverne (KO'd Arreola in 6) was a better puncher than nearly anyone Joshua's fought. Even guys like Duhaupas and Washington stopped Helenius and in Washington's case Forrest too, which would clearly be the best KO wins on the records of Takam and Parker.

In Joshua's last 9 fights he's fought one moderate KO threat (Povetkin), and he's still managed to lose three times.

You put Breazeale on the same level as Takam prior to Wilder fighting him Mitch. Don't make me dig those posts up.

The referee was constantly breaking up the action against Parker, giving the stamina-challenged Joshua plenty of rest so he could go 12 rounds for the first time. It was a common complaint about the fight, don't pretend otherwise. It shows how vulnerable Joshua was that they were pulling out all the stops against a tame gatekeeper like Parker.

You don't know how to judge records, I'll help you:

Wilder did significantly better against

Helenius than Chisora and Whyte

Breazeale than Joshua and Wallin post-Wilder

Fury than Wlad

Stiverne than Joyce post-Wilder 2

Arreola than Vitali

Duhaupas and Washington than Miller post-Wilder

Scott than Chisora and Ortiz post-Wilder

Firtha than Povetkin and Fury

Liakhovich, Szpilka and Ortiz than Jennings

Manswell than Chagaev

Morales, Liakhovich, Arreola and Ortiz than Ruiz post-Wilder
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Actually in tears reading this, rent free in your head. You know neither Wilder or AJ know you exist ?

Beale · Mar 30, 2023

Whyte v War Chisora 3 has turned into a CV Slam contest very quickly.

Both sluggers are old and shot which makes it a good undercard fight for a Taylor v Serrano type headline fight.

Beale · Mar 30, 2023

GDM74 said: ↑

I’ve not read the replies on this thread - assume it’s gone way off track!!!
But Whyte v Chisora. I’ll watch it, how can you not(unless it’s PPV of course!)
A nice retirement fight for them both.
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Gone off track - the Train is flying through the air

Wizbit1013 · Mar 30, 2023

Sonny1 said: ↑

Never and wouldn’t ever say they were killers and didn’t call you a moron. Now stop eating your crayons.
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He is however so wouldn't have been a big thing

catchwtboxing · Mar 30, 2023

The winner gets a Fury rematch!

Brixton Bomber · Mar 30, 2023

BoxingAddick said: ↑

literally a full grown man complimenting his other alt
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If this is what this sub has come to then A) it needs to go, B) that boy needs theraphy.

Manning · Mar 30, 2023

Good regional fight between two fighters past their best with nowhere to go.

Wig · Mar 31, 2023

Fury's leftovers duking it out for a shot at AJ/Franklin winner? I'll pass

Furious · Mar 31, 2023

A bit confused by the criticism of posters on this thread - It's a good debate being carried out courteously. Also actually researched rather than just a basic opinion.

Much rather read a discussion like that than the basic fare you get on the general forum anyway.

08Horacio08 · Mar 31, 2023

Furious said: ↑

A bit confused by the criticism of posters on this thread - It's a good debate being carried out courteously. Also actually researched rather than just a basic opinion.

Much rather read a discussion like that than the basic fare you get on the general forum anyway.
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Some people... well, about two, just want echo chamber

I have to admit that redbeard is an amazing debater. He always backs it up with facts and people have no reasonable response. Even when they come out with ridiculous stuff he tears them apart again lol

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