One win doesnt necessarily make someone a world beater but Whyte has been shown that he is decent with the effort he put up against Joshua. Browne is world level. He is an undefeated HW who beat then world rated Chagaev. If Whyte were to win that, I dont think people could deny that he wouldnt have earned a world rating. A win over Browne could be argued to be greater than any Parker or Wilder have and they are considered world level
We really dont know but would ask you, who did Hughie or Ruiz beat that you feel was greater than Chagaev when Brown beat him? Brown is a big solid punching HW. I would guess a bigger puncher than either of those 2 with a greater win IMO
Browne is not world level, you weirdo. No matter how many times you repeat it. Browne is a PED cheat who got caught many times. WBA stripped him of the title after his Chagaev 'win'. That was shot to bits Chagaev by the way, nice try. Whyte is also not World level, Joshua is, Whyte got destroyed by Joshua and hasn't gotten any decent wins on his record. Whyte getting KO'd by Joshua and drawing with shot Chisora is not world level.
So the Brown fight got made a No decision then did it? No it didnt. It is recorded as a stoppage win. Whyte got beat by Joshua but wasnt just blasted out in the first round. He made an argument of it early on. Whyte was around for a similar time to Breazeale and more competitive, was around longer than title holder Martin and was more competitive than Takam IMO Now I have written that I think that if Whyte were to beat Browne that I dont think his world rating could be disputed and there are many who get a rating for less. Now when talking about weirdos, why dont you explain how Chagaev was suddenly shot to bits??? This will be good
Who cares what Breazeale, Martin and Takam did? Did you just really mention Charles Martin? None of them world level. You have no point. So you admit this would be Whyte's best win? Yeah win over almost 40 year old Browne does not make you world level. Which is the original quote I replied to. For the last time, Browne and Whyte ARE NOT WORLD LEVEL.
That was Chagaev's LAST professional fight, he was 37 and retired after it. Surely you're not that dumb? Not hard to explain this.
Browne is pretty underrated IMO, he boxed very well off the backfoot against Chagaev, while he was losing that match at the time of the stoppage, only slightly, he was holding his own in most rounds, and I rate even that version far higher skill wise than Whyte. Whyte got rocked late by Allen, early by Helenius and incessantly by Chisora. Browne has devastating power, and Whyte will walk into something big, and go down, and possibly stay down. Big Daddy by KO5.
You must have some care, as the fighter we agreed with who was world class has beaten those fighters as some of his opposition to show he was world class. My point was he had a tougher time with Whyte than most of them and that if Whyte beats Browne, that I dont think it could be disputed that Whyte would have earned a world rating if he scores that win Yes I think that would be (if it happened) Whytes best win. So with your weak answer then. Note above how you dont think beating Whyte, Breazeale and Takam does make you world class, but then you must think beating a (W Klitschko) less active, older fighter coming off a clear loss does make you world class. Now I notice when posters like yourself have tied themselves up, they try and change the argument to gain ground rather than accept otherwise, so before you even try and say it... Im not comparing Wlad and Browne as fighters, but more how your logic applies. Browne has a stoppage win over a world class, then world rated fighter in a world title fight and is undefeated in the process, which I think is a greater win than any Parker or Wilder has. Browne also won that fight away. If anyone doesnt have a point to any of that, it is you. There we go... A statement without a point. I havent said I think Whte is world level but I think it would be hard to dispute it if he can beat Browne. I decided to look at the time of writing this and look at this and Boxrec have Whyte at 10 at HW, Ring has Whyte at 8, Boxing News 24 has Whyte at 6
You're asking me if im dumb yet use the logic of a last fight as if thats some decider LOL. Once again im not comparing fighters but point to the fact that Wlad was even older, less active, coming off a loss and lost his last fight and retired after it. M Spinks lost his last fight to Tyson and retired. Once again im not comparing fighters but just because someone lost and doesnt fight after doesnt mean a great deal. Still you ask others if they are dumb when you dont seem to realise that
LOL! I didn't even realize Boxing New 24 has its own ranking and you're using that? LOL! Do they have Scott Gilfoid on the panel? I'm well aware that The Ring rates Whyte in top 8, that means very little. They also had Stiverne in top 10 I believe when he won the belt. Rankings can mean VERY little. Whyte is not world class and him beating Browne won't change it. You're actually the only person in this thread who thinks that beating Browne will be some monumental achievement. You're actually ready to put Whyte at #2 behind Joshua if that happens? Seeing as how you would rank that win over anything Parker or Wilder have done. Your UK bias is ridiculous, it shows in every single post.
My opinion of Whyte is this...he doesn’t have a big concussive shot, so he has to wear his opponents down. There’s no shame in that, however, he doesn’t really possess the ring IQ to outbox his opponent either. What he does have is a big heart, and he will turn a fight into a battle of attrition. Not many fighters want that, but it’s this reason that Whyte will always fall short against the world class boxers. Wilder would put this kid to sleep. I’m not a Wilder fan by the way but Whyte is an easy target and Wilder only needs one big shot to do the job and it’s nanight.
Depends what you call world class. Whyte has a good argument to be in the top 10. He would also be a good challenger for any of the current champions. Is that world class though depends on your own personal opinion. I would look at the top 3 champions and Tyson fury if he comes back like he was. Every one else fringe world class with povetkin and Ortiz the danger men.
Agreed. It's possible to get world rated by winning against gate keepers and C level fighters. But it doesn't mean you belong in world class and can compete or beat world class fighters. Whyte's 2 best opponents were a very green Joshua and a faded Chisora and he lost to Joshua and arguably lost to Chisora too. He still has to prove he belongs at world class level. Pulev handled Chisora in far more convincing fashion as did Kabayel.