Whyte vs Parker

PPVs weren't introduced to make superfights possible or any other noble cause. They evolved out of Closed Circuit in the US, which was the primary way the general public were able to access the biggest fights through the 60s and 70s. Given the choice of watching the big fights in the comfort of your own home was preferable to a lot of people, as opposed to avoiding being showered in beer and **** when things invariably kicked off.

Boxing is an event-driven sport. It's important for the general sports fan a few days a year at most, who may or may not be happy to throw down £20 to watch a "big" event. I'm not sure I'll be buying Whyte-Parker, and it may not do great numbers when all is said and done. It's the decision of the promoter to set the event, and for the punter to then decide whether or not to buy it.

The model these days is more about having the slot and fitting the fights into it, rather than making a fight and deciding that it's so overwhelmingly awesome that it has to be PPV. Whyte-Parker is the best they can do for that slot; it's not exactly water-cooler stuff, so the promoter has to sell it like hell and stack the undercard to make it work.

 

With regards to the fight itself, credit to both guys for taking it. Bit of a throwback in that both guys are not bothering to play the ratings game and maneouvre the easiest route to a title.

It does actually make sense in a roundabout sort of way as well. Heavyweights, more so than any other division, rely on their profile rather than being stigmatised by losses. Once you are a name, you are a fixture in the division and can get fights based on this. Bruno is the obvious example, but there are plenty of others who once established just kept on getting title shots and marquee fights.

Win, lose or draw, building Whyte as a PPV fighter boosts his profile and the perception of him as a player in the division.

 

Youre right about how they evolved but over the years they had mainly been used for superfights in boxing or atleast boxers of the Tyson mould. Thats my point. Now we get Whyte v Parker and Eubank v Some bum and have to pay for it. Thats because we went from paying for genuine events to just paying EXTRA for **** roled in glitter.

 

Typical Eddie. Sod the belts, throw your man in a fight that he's likely to lose...all for a few quid. Great business, but terrible for Whyte's career. Not that Eddie cares of course.

Parker TKO 8.

 

Think using somebody’s post to throw an insult at them is a bit overboard, not to mention that’s his right to have his say, Just like it is yours but the fact is, as it has been stated if you don’t like the prices, THEN DONT PAY IT ! If people want to pay for a PPV fight then they can, your acting like it’s a mandatory obligation and that we are being brainwashed to watch it. This is a great fight, how can you say it’s not PPV worthy when Parker was just on a PPV event, former world champion. Seriously just chill out because the kind of comments you’re making aren’t going to be popular on here and for the most part it’s a good crack on here and good views but you’re just talking out of your arse. Enjoy the sun and get on wi it lad

 

Yes, FORMER world champion not anymore. Parker is garbage as has been proven against Hughie Fury and another stinker against Joshua. People on here are meant to be Hardcore, Whyte and Parker are terrible.

Hearn has a obligation to put Quality Fights on Sky Sports. Period. Saturday Fight Nights are part of it, that is exactly what Parker v Whyte is...A Saturday Fight Night Card. I am getting forced to buy it as i am a boxing fan and want to watch boxing. Same for a Football fan who wants to watch football, but the difference do you see Sky putting the Manchester, North London Derbies on PPV ? For Joshua i get why PPV is mandatory. But for garbage like Whyte and Parker it reeeks...Parker has stunk the place out for his last 2 fights, Whyte beat a 50 year old man who had flabs. He barely could beat Chisora at 35, look what Haye done to Chisora when chisora was at his peak, look how chisora got beaten by a french taxi driver

 

The buying figures for UK PPVs are not automatically available, but I think they would show that the public aren't mugs and that buy rates are sensitive to the perceived quality of the product.

Based on the figures that were released (or leaked), Joshua-Klitschko did about 1.5m in comparison to around 300,000 for Joshua-Molina and Joshua-Breazale. Bellew-Cleverly II was reported at around 200,000, after a big promotional push and an undercard featuring Joshua, Groves, DeGale, Quigg, Callum Smith and McDonnell. There's a point at which the elastic snaps and people don't buy, and it's not in the promoter's interests either to put out dross on PPV.

Like everyone else I'd love to see world title fights on terrestrial TV, but that ship has sailed a long time ago. Boxing is potentially lucrative but also toxic, and especially in these more sensitive times it's more suited to subscription and PPV. The Eubank-Watson and Benn-McClellan fights had a big impact on how boxing was perceived, and times have moved on a lot since then.

 

Shows what happens when both sides are serious..

 

"Public aren't mugs" Mate, the best Elite Matchup Hearn has done was Brook v Spence and it done only 275K Buys. Joshua-Molina done 606K and Joshua-Breazeale done 512K. Joshua-Parker also done 1.4M Buys. Check for yourself [url]https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/weekly-viewing-summary/[/url]

 

Yes, because AJ is a massive draw to the casual as well which OBVIOUSLY makes a massive difference. None of my mates could give a fiddlers fcuk about Brook Vs Spence but they'd watch AJ vs anybody. It aint hard to work that out is it?

Occasionally boxers fall into the national sports personality category, which AJ has, but most of them are only known to full time boxing fans

 

It being affordable does not equate to it being of correct value.

I'll reserve judgement until the card is announced personally, but as a headliner it shouldn't be PPV. If it goes the way of Brook-Gavin in terms of a card though then no complaints from me

 

ANYWAY, looking forward to it. I think Parker wins a decision but doesn't get the nod, most likely.

Odd move though, seeing as Whyte really wanted a shot at Wilder and the WBC called for him to face Ortiz to confirm mandatory status. Or he could have gone the IBF route and get mandated there. In terms of rankings this fight is a side step, though to our great benefit.

 

Excellent fight outsider the titlists. Do I think this it ppv worthy? No. I think ppv are for titles on the line against a contender. But the only way these sort of fights gets made is by paying the fighters handsomely and the ppv model is the only way to do it. I agree that £20 now and again isn't a big deal, no one is forcing anyone to buy it.

Now on to the fight....I think Parker takes this either via close points decision or second half stoppage.

 

Another non title fight on PPV. This is now the norm.

 

Thanks for that, and it's interesting reading. I'd be cautious about treating the BARB figures as gospel, bearing in mind how they compile their estimates. The figures do differ from what Eddie has quoted in a lot of instances, and the actual figures aren't released unless they want to.

They are probably a useful indicator though.