Whyte wants $10M to fight Fury

Who's Ortiz fought other than Wilder and Jennings?
Weak and flawed.

 

The Rivas fight was a final eliminator. But you might be right on why it was also for the interim title. And as it turns out Arum has been trying to get Fury out of potentially fighting Whyte for the last 18 months which triggered Whyte's court action against the WBC in the first place.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing...r/news-story/18c7c48351ce9c2265bc928e591555e4

For anyone who thinks Fury/Arum are not the ones trying to find any reason to duck Whyte, you might have forgotten what Arum was trying to do in summer 2020 and this was before the two Povetkin fights:

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Good points. I still give him a punchers chance though
But lemmie change it from 60/40 to 75/25 in favor of AJ

 

This is exactly where WBC went wrong.

First, they allowed Fury to jump the queue

Second, they made Whyte an 'interim champion'. In the past, this title was only designated in case of emergency where the actual champion is unavailable to defend his title due to injuries, sickness, etc. It's called interim because it's temporary. They are the temporary champion to do what the actual champion usually does (to defend the title) because of the unavailability of the latter. And this is not the only time WBC did it. They made Devin Haney as one when Loma just won the title only a month.

 

Stop the negotiations.....$10 million..........I will do it for $9 mill.

 

Only because Whyte bullied the WBC into making it a final eliminator by threatening lawsuits. Whyte has never ever agreed to face the leading available contender in a final eliminator. He turned down several final eliminators, went and signed to fight Rivas (who was not highly ranked), and then whined and cried and demanded the WBC make it a final eliminator.

 

Not true. But it is a common complaint against Whyte for those who didn't follow what happened very closely.

Whyte won his first eliminator in 2016 (eliminator A). He actually wanted the Stiverne fight to replace Povetkin, but the WBC just gifted Stiverne his position as mandatory. He also called out Breazeale.

Later in 2017, the Stiverne took step-aside and signed a contract to where he got to choose low ranked Breazeale in "a final eliminator" for the interim title (basically a warm up before a Wilder rematch). Then when that fight didn't happen, aware of the contract Breazeale had with Stiverne, Whyte put in an offer to fight Breazeale. Breazeale rejected the offer and chose to fight Molina in a regular eliminator (Eliminator B)

Whyte wouldn't accept an extra eliminator to fight Ortiz to become "2nd mandatory" as the WBC wouldn't guarantee the title shot (seems pretty justified in not trusting them given what is happening) So he stuck to his guns on getting the final eliminator against Breazeale (winner of A vs. winner of B), which the WBC finally sanctioned in 2019...

So no, he didn't duck any WBC final eliminators, he couldn't get the WBC to order one until after Breazeale was unjustly made mandatory ahead of him. Breazeale did duck Whyte though in what would have been a final eliminator in 2017...

Now if your complaint is Whyte was allowed to choose his final eliminator opponent. In effect so was Stiverne (see Breazeale), so was Breazeale (see Molina), both times avoiding Whyte.

Basically, what is your issue with Whyte? Your issue should be with the WBC

 

Whyte also wants a rematch clause, just in case he loses.

Eddie is workiing on that.

 

False. It was in 2017.

False. Whyte was offered the fight against Breazeale, but didn't want to pull out of his fight with Helenius, which is how Molina got the fight.

It wasn't an extra eliminator. Whyte still hadn't fought a final eliminator, which is how you become mandatory. Breazeale was already the mandatory. If Whyte wasn't willing to fight a final eliminator to become the mandatory after Breazeale, then he was essentially refusing to ever become the mandatory. He could have gotten his shot in 2020 if he didn't keep turning down final eliminators instead of having to wait until 2022.

You're lying. The WBC has publicly confirmed he refused the final eliminators they'd ordered against King Kong and Fury.

 

Calling people liars without getting your facts straight...

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I trust you recognize the WBC as an official source.

And Breazeale admitted in an interview to not liking the Whyte offer but was confident Al Haymon could get a fight authorised with Molina. So that's another falsehood you're spinning

The rest of your post just falls apart as it's only supported by further bull****

What a clown you are. You should change your username.

 

An intern running a facebook page getting tricked by Hearn's false advertising doesn't change the facts. The official published WBC ratings are an official source, not a social media reposting of Matchroom's inaccurate advertising. Check the ratings yourself. Whyte moves from #10 to #9 after winning that fight. It wasn't actually an eliminator. You move much higher than #9 when you win an eliminator. Whyte's eliminator was against Helenius, and he moved to #1 after winning that eliminator. The Chisora fight was just a regional title fight.

You're having the same problem here. Going by unofficial things said on the internet instead of the actual facts. Haymon was able to get a fight against Molina sanctioned because Molina was the highest rated contender willing to fill in on short notice. The fight was offered to Whyte and he turned it down.

The more you spar with me, the deeper hole you will dig for yourself. Understanding sanctioning body politics is how I used to make my living.

 

Lol, You sound like a Walter Mitty now.

If you don't trust the WBC account, how about the BBC and countless other news sources. Doubt you trust them either because it doesn't match the fantasy in your head.

As for Breazeale I watched the interview with him. So what came out of his mouth is a reliable source. More reliable than someone called WBC WBA IBF pretending to have been a professional in boxing politics on an internet message board.

Spar with you? I'm not wasting any more time on you...

 

Finkel why are you even trying with this alt ? He is obviously one of the many AJ haters on here, and they automatically start hating everyone that is managed by Hearn.
WBC is disgraceful.

 

Can you give a recent example of a fighter winning an officially sanctioned WBC eliminator and only moving up to #9 in the ratings?

 

I'm not a Joshua "hater" and I don't think I've ever posted about Joshua. I'm not an alt, this is the only account I've ever had here and I'm known on other boxing forums under this same screen name.

I like Eddie Hearn. I've done business with Eddie Hearn. He's a pathological liar like most promoters, but I think he's good for the sport and I admire his skill and work ethic.

He did, consistently, for five years, mislead the public about Whyte's WBC situation. That is my issue here. Has nothing to do with your Joshua paranoia.