Whyte wants $10M to fight Fury

When he won the championship in 2020.

He won a final eliminator.

Being #1 doesn't make you mandatory. Winning a final eliminator makes you mandatory. Whyte continuously refused to fight a final eliminator.

 

It's rule 3.22.

"In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee."

I used to make my living as a sanctioning body rules expert, so yes on this particular topic I probably know more than Hearn and definitely know more than most journalists.

70/30 is the standard split, but rule 2.6 allows for it to be modified. The split has been modified for decades when one of the fighters is a huge worldwide attraction. Guys like Canelo, Joshua and Fury aren't going to be bound to the standard split. It wouldn't be fair to them since they earn so much more than everyone else.

 

I'm labelling you a troll, because you are a troll

Anyone with Google can see Whyte was #9 in the December 2016. The WBC convention was held between December 11th and 17th. The Whyte v Chisora WBC eliminator happened the day before the convention started on December 10th 2016.

But then in the set of rankings which were published on 28th January 2017 on the WBC website, Whyte was at #4...

I've checked three of your claims and three for three i've found you to be making **** up. lol

You're a troll and I'm setting you on ignore now, get outside and speak to some real people for New Year.

 

Yeah genius the rule allowed to be modified but to be modified to 60-40 or 55-45, or 50-50 in a exceptional circumstances.

And Fury is market attraction my ***. For AJ and Canelo i agree.

Also stop with your wet fantasy buddy. You may think that your Rambo as well, but no one going to believe you, get it ?
WBC is pathetic, as they clearly do whatever the **** they wanna do. The most corrupt boxing organization that protected Wilder and feed him with bum after bum.

Also Fury was not WBC mandatory.
Nice try with Breazeale i asked who he have beaten to become such ? I see you got no answer for the rest of mandatory, cause you know I'm right.

And just like Finkel do i ignore you too. You are a troll that have 55 alts on this forum.
None of the stuffs you are saying aren't correct and you are trying to argue facts with your opinion ....

 

Correct. But if you knew anything about the ratings, you'd know they come out AFTER the fact. So the December 2016 ratings were released in January 2017. Whyte was #10 in the "November 2016" ratings that were released in December and after beating Chisora he moved to #9 in the "December 2016" ratings released in January 2017 after the fight.

Whyte vs Helenius wasn't a final eliminator. It was a semi-final eliminator. Whyte continuously refused to face the leading available contender in a final eliminator.

 

Those are the only allowed splits if you're modifying in favor of the challenger. But under rule 2.6, you can modify to any number in favor of the champion.

Fury made 15x more than Whyte in their last fights.

You're wrong. It was approved at the WBC Convention at the end of 2019 that Fury would be the mandatory for 2020 and Whyte would be the mandatory for 2021.

https://wbcboxing.com/en/wbc-division-status-december-2019/

"The WBC has also approved the rematch against No. 2 ranked Tyson Fury of Great Britain to be held in 2020. Charlie Giles petitioned Fury to be mandatory to comply with the WBC rules because Dillian Whyte situation is uncertain and is handled by a UK government agency (UKAD). No. 1 ranked Dillian Whyte’s situation is in process with UKAD and Whyte’s representatives, and with the WBC. If his situation is resolved, the WBC will continue to recognize him as Interim champion, he will become the mandatory challenger for February, 2021."

 

I never said I had no idea what I was talking about, I simply didn't know the mandatory for WBC was entitled to 30%, but according to the news, Whyte is going to get 20%, so your "superior" knowledge on how these things supposedly work ends up being useless to you. YOU should know that these supposed rules can be chopped and changed for whatever is convenient for who's in charge.

Fury lost to McDermott, I agree, but how long ago was that? Over 12 years ago? When Fury was only 21 years old, in his EIGHTH professional fight.

Common sense would dictate that losing to someone in your eighth fight at the age of 21 doesn't scar your record as much as losing to a crock old man and needing him to catch covid to beat him when you're past 30 years old and in your prime. As well as going neck and neck vs Chisora twice whilst Fury treat him like a punching bag.

Whyte's best wins were against Rivas and Parker. Decent wins, but nothing compared to beating Wlad and Wilder. Also Whyte has been knocked down vs Rivas, Parker, Pov and AJ now. Wow, what a candidate for "the best mandatory in the last 10 years or so". Truly the bar is set quite low.

I get your point about ppv buys but you have to take into account the quality of fighter we're talking about, and also that Whyte is not a champion. If we give challengers too much of the cut, then they'll fight for the wrong reasons just to turn up for the cash, rather than fight for their lives because they want the win primarily.

Whyte lost to Povetkin ffs. He hasn't really made up for that loss.

Chances are there's a 90% chance this fight will be over very quickly, and Whyte will take the hammering of his life. Whyte's only chance is if Fury decides not to take the fight seriously enough.

I'm not standing up for Fury, I seriously don't see how Whyte deserves more than 20% personally. He has done nothing to earn it, and is lucky to be mandatory again after losing to Pov.

I only think he deserves another shot because of how much the WBC screwed him over previously. It was difficult to sympathise with him after he accused Povetkin of faking covid. Which was uncalled for seeing as how Povetkin is a respectful guy, and Whyte had no evidence of it.

Whyte deserves a shot but is arguably lucky to be getting another one because losing to Povetkin should be proof enough that he stands no chance against Fury if Fury is serious. He should have obliterated Povetkin.

 

So you clearly has no idea what you was talking about, not know what they rules are. This is quite clear, and you confirm it twice already!

As far as Whyte getting 20%, let's wait and see. Their rules clearly say different thing, as well as in "exceptional" circumstances it could go to 40-60, 45-55 or 50-50 in super special circumstances.
As i said previous they are obviously corrupt and doesn't like Whyte, which is well known for the last 3-4 years. They are just begging for a lawsuit, cause their rules are on their sites.
You can even make a case for a lawsuit for the Interim 45-55 that they decide to remove the point that was in it.

When Fury lost was is irrelevant actually. Did he clearly lost? Yes. Would his stock being big time down if he actually had that lose on his record - yeah definitely !!! This is what is all that matter.

Still being named Whyte and losing to a guy named Povetkin is better to lose to completely nobody. Povetkin is 1 of the best guy in the past division. The only reason he lost to AJ and then Whyte is because he was very old already and past his best by quite a lot.

Still he was in a somehow decent shape for 40 year in Whyte 1. As he drew with Hunter and beat Hughie Fury before that. I rate Povetkin very highly.
As far as Whyte vs Povetkin 2. That was a useless fight. I **** on Whyte and Hearn big time because of it.
They constantly pretend how Whyte is taking dangerous fight, as he doesn't need and all that kind of garbage, but the m****** have rematch clauses.
They booked the match as if Povetkin win he will get a shot at the WBC, clearly overlooking him and hiding about the rematch clause.
Also Povetkin had 2 very hard COVID and was 3 time hospitalized cause of it. He pretty much got no camp for the fight, and lose tons of weight during the process, and obviously the weight he gained after that for the match, was anything but functional muscle mass.

He looked like a ***** on the scale, and can barely move even before the gong. And he had no balance at all.

There is a no doubt about that.
But i can argue that Whyte deserve his chance long before the Povetkin fight.
And whether we liked it or not, was fixed or not he had his rematch.

You can't tell me that Breazele, Stiverne, and all the imbecile WBC mandatory was even 1% worthy compare to Whyte.
Whyte is the best WBC mandatory for quite a long time.
His resume, no matter how is achieved is clearly the best outside of the champion one.
He had a better resume than Wilder even.

And read better i stated that Whyte resume is 10x time better than Fury and Wilder combined when they earned their mandatory. Before they fight for the title, you can try to argue that, but it's ridiculous, cause both Fury and Wilder lack resume big time before they get their title chance.

As far as how much who earns i don't give a ****, but i can clearly use the same agenda and say that Fury doesn't deserve more than 20% against AJ, simply because AJ is far, far, far bigger name than Fury is.
But this ain't how this work. There is rules and they should be followed.
If the WBC rules have stated 20% you won't see me comment about this.

But they have rules, that they twist however is suiting their agenda, with that I'm not okay.
Again i pasted the rule for the mandatory which is above your post and you can clearly read it, and see what they state.

 

Sorry I should of been clearer, I was comparing Fury and AJ.

My point if I can try explain it again is... Fury had to face Klitschko after having dozens of fights vs average opponents learning his craft. When he was ready he fought Klitchko and got the belt.

AJ, the star aligned meaning he could fight an average opponent to win the belt, followed by more average fighters and more belts. He did this at a stage in his career when he wasn't really ready to be a true champion. This meant he continued to fight average people, learning the craft on the job. When he finally fought Elite opposition or people at his level he was found, wanting.

 

Yes, Sorry I should of been clearer I was comparing Fury and Joshua. And to quote myself due to similar response.

 

Well he did beat Wlad after facing adversity. I would argue that Wlad was still better than any Wilder Fury fought.

 

Dillian Whyte = HORRIBLE NEGOTIATOR

 

ok but can you let us all know where the profile picture is from?

 

Lol

 

Well Fury and AJ both fought Wlad. The difference, Fury did it in his backyard... two years sooner and Wlad at this point was firming on his pedestal, levels beyond everyone else.

AJ did it with Wlad 2 years older, 2 years out the ring, the comfort of Wembley stadium and the confidence of having got the IBF.

But you know, we digress... the original point is you cant look at who they fought like for like as AJ did it in a fashion that shouldn't of been achievable, learning on the job, due to the power vacuum left by Fury.

As the saying goes, you have to beat the man to become the man... AJ didn't fight that level of opponent till Usyk.