Whyte wants $10M to fight Fury

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  1. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearn and Whyte WANTS this to go to purse bid because they know that they will outbid Top Rank.

    The 10 mill that they are throwing out will not be accepted by Top Rank and Matchroom knows this...this is just a effort to force a purse bid.

    They want to control the fight and bring it to DAZN.

    Whyte isn't worth $10 million dollar even if he actually had $10 million dollars in his pocket.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is exactly what he was talking about, and the double standard on here when people talk about AJ and compare him to anyone.

    Breazeale was his first fight after he won the title from Charles Martin. It was his 16 fight he goes for the title, and Molina was his 18 fight.
    And there is a big difference when you face your opposition. 1 or 2 years can make a huge difference.
    AJ was totally inexperience back then.

    Why you not compare him to Fury or Wilder 16-18 fight? I will laugh my *** off.
    Wilder 16 to 18 opponents doesn't even have wiki pages lol.
    Fury was Firtha, Pajkić and Rogan, totally unknown names, and Pajkic KD Fury if I'm not wrong ....

    Takam was a decent HW at one point, he was obviously past his best when Povetkin KO him, but he was still decent opponent in 2017 when AJ face him, but i don't see how you can even mention it, he was a late replacement for Pulev.

    Still AJ next fights after Molina was W. Klitschko, Takam, Parker, Povetkin, 2x time Ruiz, Pulev and Usyk.

    Twice as good compare and combined to both Fury/Wilder together.

    For god sake Fury is big time trying to duck Whyte, who was AJ 15th opponent....

    So nice try ...
     
  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    fact checked works out
    solid and truthful post
    fury fans the new amir khan fans
    mentally unstable
     
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  4. dawz84

    dawz84 Member Full Member

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    Its not about who they fought at the same amount of fights, but who they fought when they became champion. Your not supposed to win a belt vs average opponents then hold the belts to ransom learning your craft on the job. Its example of everything wrong with boxing. Your supposed to learn your craft then earn your chance vs 'the man'. Joshua was the victim of his own 'success' really, the star's aligned which gave him a shot at the belts long before he was ready.

    Joshua never fought a real champion until Usyk (and he wasn't even a heavyweight champion at that point) and got his ass handed too him.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And how exactly Fury is going to become undisputed if he vacates the title, explain it to me ? Your logic is tragic bro.
    Again if Fury vacates this is a perfect for Hearn, not just because Whyte will have easier time, but because of Whyte win, then even if AJ loses to Usyk again, Hearn will have another option for AJ to fight Whyte and still end up with a belt.

    Or he may pray that Whyte will beat Usyk, and that will be undisputed fight. Usyk said it multiple time that he want to become undisputed.

    The worst thing(that's why i don't believe Fury will vacate) is Fury to vacate the belt.

    As far as Whyte PPV numbers, this numbers aren't real.
    It was reported that he hit 220k vs Povetkin, but that media was incorrect.
    The numbers was 337k.

    Whyte numbers so far:
    In UK:
    700k vs AJ
    571k vs Parker
    532k vs Chisora 2
    368k vs Oscar Rivas
    337k vs Povetkin
    197k vs Povetkin 2


    His numbers are rock solid over UK. Whether people loves him or hate him, he obviously have his fanbase.

    For plain example Fury vs Wilder 1 in UK had 450k PPV.

    And all of Whyte matches wasn't a title one. So when the title is on the line, the number obviously going to increase, so Whyte is bringing a lot to the table, unlike what most people are saying.
     
  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly, but Fury fans are acting like he is on AJ level. The guy is a fraud and soon will be KTFO and people will jump on the next train.
    Most nowadays Fury fans was Wilder or someone else fans, and they jump on Fury train now. :D

    The guy is going to get KO by both AJ and Usyk big time.
    If he continue sliding down, he may get KO by a lot more people if he was actually fighting regularly and facing decent opposition.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This post made no sense at all.
    Both Fury and Wilder started their career 5 years before AJ, and AJ resume still ***** on both of them combined.

    Trying to suit your agenda saying that the numbers of fight and opposition doesn't matter is the next level deluding.
    Maybe you should try better, cause ain't working.

    Joshua actually constantly taking risk and fight dangerous, high ranked and the in shape operators, unlike both Fury and Wilder.

    You may try as hard as you can, but AJ > both Fury and Wilder combined resume.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No bro this guys are delusional asf. This is the same Wilder wannabes fans with new alts, and now they are on the Fury hypetrain.

    I got no problem with anyone claiming that Fury is number 1, and that he will beat x or y guys, as that is their opinion.
    But his deluded blinded fanboys trying to defend him ducking(if he actually decide to duck Whyte) is pathetic on all levels.

    Anyway they have hard time reading. I have posted the WBC rules, but they are living in their own worlds. They obviously have hard time reading and understanding stuff, still claiming Whyte deserve 20-25%, when the bare minimum is 30%, and actually if Whyte wins he get 10% more, so 40%.
    This is the bare minimum.
    But he is an Interim and if WBC still have Interim, that mean they still have the rules 45-55% i posted not long ago.

    So Whyte at the very least will try to get 35-40%.
    And if Whyte team is not happy, they will just go to purse bid. Team Fury obviously doesn't want the fight to go purse bid, cause the split will be totally different there, and they will most probably lose the purse bid and be totally ******.

    Also people on here dreaming that Fury will skip Whyte, when WBC actually ordered the fight, and Fury can't skip Whyte, unless he decide to vacate the title.

    The fun part continue with deluded Fury fanboys trying to forget about all the said above and they truly believe Fury have all the cards, when they are all in Hearn/Whyte side.
     
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  9. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.

    Whyte has every right to get his fair share as ppv numbers are rock solid.

    The narrative team Fury are trying to push is Whyte brings nothing to the table and it's all Fury which is BS.
     
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  10. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not Wilderettes. Fury fans now have every reason to big Wilder up, because Fury's reputation hinges on him..
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Whyte trying to duck the fight if he holds this line.

    I'm all for fighters trying to get as much money as possible, as long as it doesn't become a deal breaker.
     
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  12. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is Whyte ducking? Sounds like Arum-Warren-Fury don't like the thought of purse bids.
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes he obviously has a fanbase never said otherwise the decline in his PPV numbers isn't due to a decline in his popularity but a decline in PPV numbers in general because of the pandemic effecting live shows making them less attractive. You seem to be looking at this as if I was attacking Whyte's popularity when I clearly wasn't and said the decline was due to the pandemic. You seem to be overly invested in this hence your overly emotional response.

    As for Fury being undisputed, nothing prevents him giving up the belt now and trying later which is what I alluded too. Not sure why you didn't understand that. It's not like he hasn't vacated the belts before. Hearn either gets Whyte a big payday now vs Fury or it goes to purse bids which suits Hearn or Fury vacates and it then means Whyte fights someone else for the title and then maybe gets Whyte an even bigger payday vs Fury or Usyk. Either way it works out for Hearn or at least that's what he probably thinks, wouldn't shock me if WBC did something to undermine his plans, Hearn has a habit of underestimating how far they'll go to prevent Whyte getting a title shot.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The purse bids give Whyte 25% of the total, Whyte is asking for 10 mil guarantee.

    It's only a duck if he refuses to fight due to not getting his wish.
     
  15. Joe-fist

    Joe-fist Wise men fear nothing Full Member

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    It may be true that Whyte is more popular than Fury,but it's up to the promoter to decide who got paid more(for ppv only) as the rule of the purse bid and the ratio of boxing rule about a fight like this(champion vs mando) it will be always the champion who got the higher ratio...so the best ratio(by WBC rules) Whyte can get is:70/30 ratio in favor of the champion(for a contenter like Whyte it's very good considering his resume and that he loss to Povetkin so get down in ranking but take the place by beating him in the rematch and some money to bend the rules).