wich uk trainer[active] can cut it with the us trainers

In terms of consistency you have to say the Ingle's its a style that whilst doesnt work with many boxers has consistently proven itself at British and European and knocked out a few world champions.

 

I'll be honest mate I don't really agree with there style while you can't complain as they've produced at the very highest level, I just feel you can't teach a kid to fight with his hands down, It just ain't right.. Let's not forget they train far more journeymen than champions too mate. I don't think it's a bad thing as they just run it like a business..

 

Its a case of what works for the individual boxer i feel its a style that few can master but those that its suits can go far with it and consistently go far with it. What other trainers can say that their "style" can do that consistently. Whilst i don't necassarily agree with it being best for British fighters it has produced the results.

 

I worked with Buddy McGirt and thought he was an amazing trainer.

 

I think that Ingle should definitely be in this category, someone rightly pointed out that UK fighters rarely move away from the hands up tall boxing style. One criticism of Ingle would be that all of his fighters tend to adopt his style even if it doesn't suit them.

Enzo Calzaghe worked wonders for his stable and his influence is still evident in the likes of cleverley and maccarinelli today however he strikes me as the type of coach that wouldn't tolerate a different style in his gym.

Adam Booth seems very smart in his approach to training and cornering and his use of unorthodox training methods is paying dividends for his fighters.

The top fighters all have a great coach and a great team that handles conditioning for boxing and I think that this is an area often overlooked by traditional british coaches.

 

are you a pro mate?

 

thats the thing though, most people are happy to train with them!

but seriously...

roach when he was training tyson said that there were times when tysons wouldn't listen to him and act like an ******* so he found ways around to motivate him, he said its his job as a trainer to motivate and get tyson ready, after tyson lost he said he doesn't blame tyson, he said he should have motivated tyson, mind you that was when roach was humble and camera shy!

recently manny steward said about cotto that 70% of his training camp is talking and hanging out with cotto, getting to know him better, what makes him tick etc, he says he spends alot of time with cotto playing golf and other stuff just to try understand him better

to me thats what all great trainers should do, know their fighters in and out!

from the videos i've seen i think arnie will be our great coach

 

I remember manny said he used to talk to lewis for ages about tactics, choice of gloves and shorts etc after training. He also focuses a lot on balance for a fighter and breaks down his fighters back to the basics like klitschko and cotto.

 

$wifty is Stephen Smith brother of British SMW champ Paul who used to be trained by McGirt

 

i think stewards best work has been with wlad, wlad was mentally lost, he had gotten ko'd twice nowhere to go, manny must have done some pretty good talkin' with him to get him back!

 

Im of the opinion that the reason Britain does not live up to the standard against the best American fighters is because the trainers in Britain are not as good, however there are some good strategists out there, most notably Ritchie Woodhall, he knows his Boxing.

I could never give that accolade to someone like Booth, Haye is far too technically flawed to do that.

 

The problem i see with Ingle's fighters are, yes they are fluid, but most cant set up their own attacks when asked to lead, they seem to be strictly counter punchers, which is great when the man is leading to you, but look what happens with guys like Witter/Hamed when they had to lead, no jab to set up their own attacks so they end up reaching & lunging with punches and getting countered.

 

You can see the hold manny has over wlad in his last fight where he demanded he go and knock him out, wlad followed his instruction which is the sign of a trusting relationship.

I see your point and it's true the Ingle style shouldn't be uniform for all the fighters, Hamed was a tremendous athlete and unfortunately he relied on this rather than thorough preparation in the build up to his only defeat.

A large problem with 'new' boxers is that they walk into gyms with the idea that they will be pulling moves like roy or floyd. Flair development should be encouraged but only after the basics have been drilled into being second nature in my opinion, unfortunately too many people want to run before they can walk.