Wilbur's Top 20 Greatest HW Of All Time

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  1. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    20. Riddick Bowe
    19. Jim Corbett
    18. Ken Norton
    17. Max Baer
    16. Jersey Joe Walcott
    15. Ezzard Charles
    14. Gene Tunney
    13. Mike Tyson
    12. Sonny Liston
    11. Evander Holyfield
    10. Rocky Marciano
    9. Lennox Lewis
    8. Jack Dempsey
    7. Larry Holmes
    6. Jack Johnson
    5. Joe Frazier
    4. James J. Jeffries
    3. George Foreman
    2. Joe Louis
    1. Muhammad Ali

    source and his explanation:
    20-11: https://ringsidereport.com/?p=7367
    10-1: https://ringsidereport.com/?p=7593
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Frazier over Holmes, Lennox and Holyfield get out :lol:

    James J Jeffries placement is also a ****ing joke.

    Johnson that high based on what?

    Liston over Tyson, Charles and Walcott???

    So what did Dempsey do to compete with at the very least 7 or so guys below him?

    This list looks like it was put together by someone with a very, very casual understanding of the game.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Having Corbett ahead of Fitzsimmons makes no sense.
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's so controversial about having Frazier ahead of Holyfield...?
    I wouldn't have him inside top either, but if you don't care about the longevity then Jeffries peak was extremely good.
    Nothing unreasonable with having Liston ahead of Tyson and Charles (though I'd have Mike ahead of him). Liston over Walcott is a must-have.
     
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  5. 70sFan865

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    Also, lack or Max Schmeling in the top 20 is disgusting.
     
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    Also, lack or Max Schmeling in the top 20 is disgusting.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Because Evanders has three times the resume Frazier did. The peak of Liston is Patterson, Williams and Machen I think Tyson showed us more and so did Ezz and Walcott.
     
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  8. White Bomber

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    Garbage list order wise
     
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  9. 70sFan865

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    That's not true. Frazier has the best win among them and even though his secondary wins are less impressive overall, he was also far more consistent than Evander. It's fine to rank them either way.
    Walcott beat Charles in the third try, outside of that what makes his resume as good as Liston? He also lost so many times that it's not even worth debating.
     
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  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I have a few disagreements.

    Wlad deserves in, but he may have been excluded due to being active. I don't get why people put Corbett above Fitzsimmons. I think Lennox and Marciano are too low, but good list overall
     
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    Probably clearing out the division, despite the racist bias against him.
     
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  12. Unforgiven

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    It is a reasonable list.
     
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    I don’t necessarily agree but I’ve seen worse.
     
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  15. Journeyman92

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    Nonsense- historical yes but it accounts for nothing as a whole if we are rating them on what they actually achieved.
     
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