Wilder "50-50 with Joshua or no fight"LOOL wilder doesnt want to fight anyone

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  1. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The last time I read so much codswollop was, well when I read this about 2 minutes earlier. . .

    It takes a special kind of strange non logic to draw the comparisons and conclusions you’ve reached here...
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didn't respond to your reply to mine because I really didn't see the point as you ignored half my points and continued on with your rant.


    unification
    ˌjuːnɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
    noun
    1. the process of being united or made into a whole.
    Just because Wlad didn't hold a belt doesn't mean Joshua didn't unify. Joshua still by the act of beating Wlad unified 2 belts, that in itself is unification. I'm sure you'll disagree and ignore the actual definition of what the word unification means because it suits your opinion to.

    But honestly I don't even know why you are disagreeing with me. I never said Joshua was a bigger draw than Wlad or was better than Wlad because I don't believe that. How big a draw Wlad was or is compared to Joshua has no relation to your belief that Joshua and Wilder should get 50/50.

    You're clearly a Wlad fan which is fine, I'm not dissing Wlad at all by saying the bigger draw Joshua deserves more than 50/50 vs the much less popular Wilder.

    All I said was at the time Haye and Wlad were both big draws and Haye had made $9 mill vs Harrison which was more than Wlad usually makes from his RTL deal so that fight being 50/50 made sense unlike Joshua/Wilder now.

    Your logic is flawed is regards to your original premise that Joshua/Wilder should be 50/50.
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No offense, but anyone who thinks Wilder is enough of a draw to get an equal $$$ split as Joshua has ZERO business sense


    When you’re talking about this much money, you don’t just willingly give the other party several million dollars that is CLEARLY not deserved

    Wilder is not 1/5 the draw Joshua is. Even Wilder knows this and THAT is his way of avoiding the fight, but still “claiming” he wants the fight


    What a transparent joke, Wilder is
     
  4. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Why we even talking about this fantasy match up??

    Wilder is gonna fight Ortiz next as he has blessed him.

    Unfortunately who Wilder fights isn't really up to him but the WBC so I would imagine it will be Breazeale or Stiverne III...
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilder can't draw flies! Wilder does not want to fight Joshua, he have never planned to fight Joshua or Parker, or anyone who can fight back! I doubt if he will fight Ortiz, Ruiz, Sirenko, and Sirenko is still early in his career! He will keep away from Povetkin as well, he has already turned down big money to fight Whyte, nope, he will not fight Miller either! It has been decided by Haymon that he will fight Breazeale another Haymon fighter who can't fight at all and was knocked out by Joshua! Breazeale will do what Haymon tells him to do, even take a dive?
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol as I expected you completely ignored the actual definition of what unification is. But OK that's your opinion not fact, you can keep calling in a non unification fight if you want while everyone else knows that was a unification fight because in the end we saw 2 titles unified.

    Haye was no big draw? Then how did he make $9 mill vs Harrison? How did he make £15 mill vs Wlad? His purse for the Fury fights was going to be £5 million which is about what Wlad was making for a routine defence. Even past his prime and fighting on a mickey mouse TV network he got £4 mill for Bellew.

    Now I'm not saying he was the biggest draw during his time, Wlad was just as big a draw really and historically his drawing power wasn't great as US TV ignored him but during a time when heavyweight boxing wasn't being followed in the US, he was one of the biggest draws in heavyweight boxing which is why Haye gave Wlad his biggest payday.

    Even if you don't agree with me in regard to whether Joshua/Wlad was a unification, you cannot say Haye was not a draw because the numbers he pulled for his fights clearly showed he was a draw. You can say whatever you like, doesn't make what you are saying is true when you do not have any facts to prove your point.
     
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  7. ManLikeFemi

    ManLikeFemi New Member banned Full Member

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    Joshua Wilder is definitely happening in America which i dont mind.I would definitely stay up to watch it.The reason why is Because Wilder is American he will bring US PPV.They are building up to the fight,why do you think Wilder has stopped talking about AJ,they are building towards it.I think Joshua and Wilder both need to fight on the Same Card or within 2 Weeks eachother both in America.There have been rumours of Hearn moving Joshua to HBO but i dont see the point.It will be Showtime PPV,Sky Box Office in the UK.And for a Shootout and a Heavyweight fight like this if both are still undefeated i expect Major Broadcasters in Europe,South America,Asia will be all over this fight.However one thing that does make me worry is Wilder is already 33 and age is not on his side.
     
  8. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He built his entire career around crushing cans and avoiding any risk before one big, last payday, and now he's too scared even for that last payday?

    In his mind he probably thinks he can continue crushing cans forever and retire unbeaten at 60-0 and people will drink it up.

    And looking around, well, he's not wrong.
     
  9. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sounds like fury
     
  10. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If Klitschko is a bigger draw than Joshua....

    Why did it make business sense to hold to fight at a location and time where it would actually be Joshua's fans who would recieve the largest benefit?

    Why did Joshua earn more against Takam than either Klitschko did in either of their mandatories?



    Joshua is the biggest heavyweight draw since Ali.
     
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  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilder is not in Joshua's class, he is afraid and will fight Breazeale next because Breazeale is now mandatory thanks to Haymon, owned by Haymon and was knocked out by Joshua! Wilder is afraid of anyone who can fight back period!
     
  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just REMINDER on this thread DECEMBER 2017 on here...Wilder laying out blue prints of ducking this fight well before any fight talks started.
     
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