Wilder "50-50 with Joshua or no fight"LOOL wilder doesnt want to fight anyone

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  1. JacobEr

    JacobEr Member Full Member

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    Yep, Wilder is well known, but he isn't popular as boxer, he hasn't had big fights yet and more uses his tounhg than the fists in the ring.
     
  2. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Joshua basically doubles (or less) what he is making now by fighting Wilder, 50/50 is woth it now. Wilder is a fraud and will loose. Which makes Joshua the only fish left in the division. That is why I think 50/50 could be fair, because knowing Wilder, he will fight Joshua only if there is a gigandtic amount of money involve.
     
  3. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So let me get this right.....

    You think it's fair if Joshua doubles his money from his past fight?

    Why should Wilder earn 20x the money from his last fight?



    What the simple and completely fair thing to do would be to pay each fighter what they earnt in their last fight + $1......As well as the away fighter being paid travel and accomodation costs.

    The rest is donated to charity.


    But it's never gonna happen.....
     
  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes the fight will get done sooner or later just like wilder vs...

    Povetkin
    Ortiz
    Wlad Klitschko
    Joseph Parker
    Tyson Fury

    ....It’s inevitable ........
     
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  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is well known and people pretending otherwise are b.s. ing through their teeth. Haters gotta hate I guess.
     
  6. JacobEr

    JacobEr Member Full Member

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    As for me, Wilder had a chance to close the mouths of his haters if he faced Whyte. I can agree that Wilder isn't to blame for not fighting Povetkin or Ortiz, but he's certainly ducking from Whyte and I can't understand why, he has a big chances to win, he will earn a lot of money for the fight (more than any fight in his career), and will get a good scalp
     
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  7. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As a fan I agree but it doesn't work like that. Wilder seems content fighting cans for 1 mill a fight and looking for an enormous pay day to fight someone who could possibly beat him. 40% for a fight with AJ would easily be his biggest pay day and enhance his legacy but he doesn't want to do it.
     
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  8. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Damn brits are delusional.
    I’m not a fan of wilder , but if they planing to fight in US , then Wilder should def get 50% . As in US nobody knows who is Joshua, so I’m not sure why Wilder should not demand 50% ??
    Wilder is prob better known in US than that empty tank british robot on roids
     
  9. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I feel sorry for you attempting to defend someone who clearly doesn't respect you as a fan.
     
  10. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you clearly are one then...
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    But the fight is not happening in the US as Wilder and Joshua are both relatively unknown and unproven draws in the US. Hearn has made it clear that the fight is happening in the UK as that where it makes the most.

    To put it in perspective. Wlad for the Jennings fight got $3 mill which is double what Wilder has ever earned. That's right Wlad who was never a draw in the US, who never fought on PPV there had double the drawing power of Wilder. If a long reigning champ with double the drawing power of Wilder couldn't get US PPV, then currently no way does Wilder or Joshua get PPV in the US which is the only way this fight happens there.

    So you saying he deserves 50/50 if it's in the US is pointless. Might as well say Wilder deserves 50/50 if he beats Godzilla in his next fight, it has a similar grounding in reality.
     
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  12. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    if wilder had fought and beat wlad then you better believe he could make a case for 50/50
    his decision to take the path of least resistance makes him the b-side in negotiations, regardless of what he thinks he should get
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very different scenario. Prior to the Wlad fight Haye made $9 million for just fighting Audley Harrison if anything Haye was the bigger draw, so him getting 50/50 for a shot at Wlad made sense as Wlad couldn't make anywhere near the £15 mill he did against anyone else as his RTL deal was paying him far less per fight.

    Lewis and Holyfield made pretty similar money. Lewis made $4 mill vs Briggs and Holyfield made $5 mill vs Bean. So in terms of drawing power they were on a similar level, so once again 50/50 wasn't really a big deal. And even then they didn't get 50/50 for the first fight. Holyfield got $20 mill, Lewis got $10 mill. It was the rematch where they split the purse 50/50 after everyone thought Lewis was robbed in the first fight. So Lewis if anything was willing to get less to get his shot, why won't Wilder do the same?

    So once again Wilder can't expect 50/50 when he doesn't even generate a 10th of the income that Joshua does. Did Mayweather give guys 50/50 when he dwarfed their drawing power, even when they had a belt and he didn't? Nope he paid guys less than 10% usually and still gave them a record payday. The disparity between drawing power is too huge. The fact Joshua is willing to give Parker over 25% is honestly generous, it's more than Mayweather would of given an opponent with a belt if the ability to generate income was so disparate.
     
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  14. Farmboxer

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    The movie "The Harder They Fall" was on Turner Classic Movies tonight, story about the hype Primo Carnera, must be a tribute to Wilder!
     
  15. speedbaggage

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    If Joshua beats Parker then Wilder will get his 50/50 split. Joshua will only be able to put the fight off for so long before fans and media companies demand it.