Wilder "50-50 with Joshua or no fight"LOOL wilder doesnt want to fight anyone

he's fought almost exclusively in new Zealand and surrounds
he couldn't have isolated his business side of boxing more if he tried

 

You will all try to hide behind this Joshua fans but remember. Charlie Brown tries to hide his big ass head behind a tree to kick the football from Lucy and she always sees him coming and pulls the football away. You can run Joshua and Hearn but you can't hide.

 

Charlie headbrownkin as i call him!

 

He came over to the UK to defend his title against Fury, much better than anything Wilder has done in 9 years of being a professional.

 

true
but wilder fighting in the US makes him relevant by default

 

A 50:50 split is actually more like 70:30 Wilder isn't it?

Considering Hearn will have to arrange the venue, travel arrangements, tickets, PPV, deals with European networks and deals with Showtime/HBO.


It's Wilder's fault we're having trouble with this fight not getting made.

The guy has had 2-3 years more than Joshua to become 'the man', yet he hasn't.

 

Joshua nowhere near Wlad?

Joshua just like Wilder?


Wlad's biggest purse came from fighting Joshua.....

 

Do you have sources for those paydays vs Chambers and McCline. Seems weird as before McCline he fought Mercer for just $1.2 mill, then in his very next fight he gets 11 mill euros, something doesn't add up there, especially as I think he only got $2 mill when unifying vs Ibraghimov. I mean when does a unification fight make less?

As for the Haye pull out that was in the summer of 2009 when hadn't won a title at heavyweight so he wasn't the draw he would become later on when they fought in 2011. In that 2 year period Haye went from a cruiserweight champion to a heavyweight title holder fighting regularly on Sky PPV and raking in millions as the Harrison fight proved.

Comparing Joshua and Wilder in regards to popularity and drawing power is ridiculous have you been in a coma for the last year or so. Joshua beating Wlad put him on another level, he's has big a star as Wlad ever was and a bigger draw now with Sky PPV behind him.

Lewis made $9.1 mill vs Tucker and $8 mill vs Bruno so he clearly made close to the ten million you think he didn't make.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Lennox_Lewis_vs._Tony_Tucker

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Lennox_Lewis_vs._Frank_Bruno

 

It is very obvious that Wilder does not want to fight Joshua or Parker.............he will fight Breazeale who was knocked out by Joshua, that is what made Breazeale mandatory, yes, he got knocked out! After that perhaps it will be a rematch with Sconiers or Nichols, or both, WBC will make them #1 if Haymon tells them to..........at least that is how it appears!

 

No unifications you say? How is Joshua IBF and WBA champion then? He unified the IBF and WBA titles when he fought Wlad. Wilder on the other hand has definitely not unified, took him almost 3 years to fight a mandatory, maybe in another 3 years he'll have the balls to unify with someone.

Yes Joshua has only fought 2 top heavyweights, Wlad and Takam but he's only had 20 fights. Wilder has had almost double the fights with 39 wins yet it's debatable if he's fought a single top level heavyweight as Stiverne's only claim to fame was beating the gate keeper Arreola and lost what little desire and discipline he had after winning the title. So no their achievements are not comparable. And even if their achievements were equal that doesn't means it should be 50/50, that's decided by each fighters marketability.

Wlad's biggest payday was actually Haye, he got £15 mill for that fight when the £ was worth more, it would of been about $24 mill back then. His next biggest payday was Joshua for £15 mill too but the £ has been devalued since Brexit and so that's only $19.3 mill and against Povetkin Wlad made $17.5 mill. These are the figures we know for sure, but it's possible Wlad could of made more for Joshua as that broke the UK PPV record selling more PPV's than Wlad/Haye, if Wlad and Joshua got a percentage of PPV's then they would of earned more than their guaranteed £15 mill.

Not sure why you're mentioning Wlad as a reason why they deserve to split it 50/50. Nobody thinks Joshua or Wilder have achieved a fraction of what Wlad has done, in his prime he KO's both and his achievements dwarf Joshua's and Wilders but that doesn't mean the split should be 50/50, there is no logic in that whatsoever. I mean every fighter Joshua or Wilder will face can't compare to Wlad, so all their fights should be 50/50 splits according to your crazy logic.

The one this you haven't mentioned in regards to what each should get paid is each fighters marketability which is the true deciding factor on what each fighter should earn. Joshua's fights generate at least 10 times what Wilder's fights do. Why should Wilder get an equal cut when he brings to little. 90% of the people paying for this fight are paying to see Joshua not Wilder but Wilder wants 50% of every Joshua fans ticket or PPV price. No business would work in partnership with another, only do 10% of the work involved but expect 50% of the profit. But this is what Wilder is asking for.

You say Wilder asking for $10 mill is trying to get out of the fight, well him asking for 50/50 is him asking about $20 mill, maybe more, so do you still think he wants this fight and deserves 50/50?

 

It's 50/50 of the profits.

 

No-one is claiming Joshua's achievement is the same as Wlad/Vitali....

But it's pretty clear that his popularity is higher.

Wlad got his career high pay day because of Joshua.....

 

I think @Brighton bomber just schooled you. You didn't even respond to half of his points.

If you think AJ was "gifted" the WBA title for beating the best HW of the last 10 years then there's no point in talking anymore

 

So how does Hearn recieve the 'time' back that he would have to put in to make the fight?

Hearn will be the one negotiating network deals:

Whether it be PPV in the UK......
European broadcasters such as RTL and Polsat.....
Even the US networks, Showtime and HBO.....
Even as far as Australia, New Zealand, Japan etc etc etc.




Hearn will have to arrange the venue:
Lets say for example it is Wembley Stadium.

So he's got to arrange the stadium in a way we can fit 80,000+.....
He's got to arrange security for it all.....
Make sure there is adequate transport links for all of the fans.....
Ensure all of the media are given the correct access.....
He's got to arrange the sales of tickets.....

Then, after all that, Hearn will have to promote the fight.
TV appearances.....
Arranging Sponsorship deals.....

Joshua will bring in over 90% of the viewers.
Hearn will put in and arrange over 90% of the fight arrangements. E.g. Sponsorships, Tickets


This is not a 50/50 split fight........

If you were Hearn, why would you effectively be putting in the most time of anyone, and actually taking the lowest cut?

 

His time like anything else would be an expense and he would be paid for it first before anything gets split.