Wilder "a big name" ????!

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Wilder has name recognition among American boxing fans, and maybe slightly on the periphery of Americans who don't care about boxing but religiously watch ESPN & team sports. Or if they're hip-hop heads, through his association with people like Lil Kim and Jay Rock.

    Outside those groups, no. If you aren't into prizefighting or sports in general, there's a very low probability it would ring a bell.

    I can guarantee you if I asked @LilButt's nana who Deontay Wilder is she would be clueless. "Did he climb Mt. Everest?" :lol:
     
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  2. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Would she know Samson Po'uha by any chance?
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Biblically. :deal:




    Alright, let me stop, that's my ex-MIL, gotta keep it respectful...

    She was actually apparently an Ali fan in the seventies.
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Yeah there haven't been Heavyweight cultural icons out of America since Tyson and Holyfield. I'm sure Wilder would have a conniption fit reading this and spurt out some nonsense in response, but deep down he knows that he is not that popular in the grand scheme of things.
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Usyk would KO Wilder in 2 or 3 rounds. Wilder has no Chin. None.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Would? Will. Wilder is explicitly number one on his 2026 wishlist, and Usyk is in a position now to get whatever he wants before retiring.
     
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  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who has a bigger name than wilder that usyk hasn’t fought?

    wilder is done and usyk is just grabbing money the easy way. If he does I hope wilder ko’s him for the money grab lol
     
  8. Camps

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    This is an excellent point and confirms my suspicion that Usyk, stand-up guy that he is, decided to toss this opportunity to Wilder just as much as a courtesy as anything else.

    And I do get that Wilder had an added casual fan base here in the States -- but emphasis on "had." I just can't see that fan base lingering, not outside his home state of Alabama anyway.... and I can't see a huge PPV turnout for this. Pre-Wilder-Fury 2? Absolutely. But today??
     
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  9. Camps

    Camps Active Member Full Member

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    Well I'd luv to see that too. Who wouldn't want to see the upset of the century? Alas, I fear things won't turn out so well for Wilder....
     
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  10. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Are you the same guy who said nobody in the USA knows who Usyk is?
     
  11. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    even so, it was probably more people than live in your whole shitty little country.
     
  12. Camps

    Camps Active Member Full Member

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    Not yours truly.

    Actually though it's hard to gauge just how many Americans are up on boxers these days; MMA has so totally taken over (and now MMA impresario Dana White wants to subsume global boxing into his organization... :eek:).

    I watched all three Wilder-Fury fights in one of NYC's largest, most popular sports bars. It was fairly packed for all three ... but IIRC easily half if not the majority of fans each time were Brits.

    Wilder could only be a big draw if the promoters manage to play up his old highlights reel and his puncher's chance of catching Usyk.

    I will grant that Wardley and Kabayel are not showmen, and that certainly makes a difference in ticket sales. They're nice, courteous gracious guys outside the ring. By contrast, Ali was and Fury is a showman, always bombastically selling and happy to do so to lovers and haters alike.
     
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  13. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The USA isn’t a shitty little country lol
     
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  14. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    I figure that 2026 is going to see some announcement of some kind of Saudi backed unified belt, starting at HW, and either Usyk is going to be awarded it as the augural champion, or at least fight for it first up for a huge payday. Wilder with a rematch clause, fills in the gap.

    Kabayel and Wardley are bad risk reward equations in this context. They could always fight each other to make a super compelling case.

    Wilder/Ruiz/Joshua/Fury + Miller and a few others are going to linger until all opportunities for a cash-out are shut out by someone younger stepping up and resonating with casuals. IMO no-ones done enough on that front as yet.
     
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  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of the USA didn't even know he was champion. Wilder is an easy touch defense with name value. Funny how people are expecting far more out of Usyk than they did of Wilder, Fury, or Joshua. Usyk has already surpassed them in terms of quality of defenses.