Wilder and fans, just please stop

Not at all what I'm talking about.

 

You missed my point. Wilder stated that Joshua's career was built on lies, contradictions, and gifts when he's the one who avoided the match and turned down 120 million in order to avoid the fight and instead of making 30 million to fight Breazeale, made less than 10 just because he didn't want Joshua's name attached to the contract. His team came out after the Stiverne fight and turned down Klitschko who Joshua went on to beat, and behind the scenes has repeatedly attempted to buy off or avoid fighters such as Povetkin who Thomas Hauser exposed in his expose on Al Hayman.

Wilder was given a gift against Fury when practically everyone had him losing. The strange situations where both Stiverne and Ortiz both enter the matches sickly, the 7th round assistance from the ref, the fact that regardless of how the match looks to practically everyone, Wilder always seems to have at least one very strange judge who has him way out ahead. Talk about get outta here with that BS. That's some Hayman BS.

The point about his record is that Joshua has fought 23 times and if his 23 bouts are built on gifts, lies, etc then what exactly did Wilder's first 23 fights look like and would he survive Joshua's resume without several defeats? We all know the answer to that.

 

He's not my boy. I'm more a fan of Ruiz than Joshua. 23 fights does matter when we're talking about Wilder's comments, which is what the entire point of the thread is.

 

Not that I even agree with how Joshua or Wilder were handled in their careers. If Hearn rushes him head first into a rematch I think that it's a bad mistake.

 

I think that Fury will box his ears off 18 out of 20 matches.

 

Wilder is the one who was criticizing Joshua's resume. I was pointing out that throughout his 23 matches he has run the gauntlet, and when comparing to Wilder's first 23 opponents, many of which were cruiserweights, there is simply no comparison at all. I'm quoting Wilder himself and he made the initial comparison so it's not irrelevant.

 

“He wasn’t a true champion. His whole career was consisted of lies, contradictions and gifts.”

Listen, we’re talking about an Anthony Joshua who has been in very tough in comparison to Wilder at the same stage of their careers/fights. For example:

• In 23 fights Joshua has faced Andy Ruiz, Alexander Povetkin, Joseph Parker, Carlos Takam, Wladimar Klitschko, Dominic Breazeale, Charles Martin, Dillian Whyte, and Kevin Johnson.
• In Wilder's first 23 fights he fought Harold Sconiers, Justin Nichols, Marlon Hayes, as well as Damon Reed, both cruiserweights with his standout opponent being journeyman Owen Beck.

When Joshua had bad day at the office it was against Klitschko, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte, etc. When Wilder had a bad day at the office, it was against Sconiers (who he almost lost to), Molina, Nichols, etc.

 

Right, and Wilder lost out on a life changing 120 million dollar contract now because of horrible advice from his team and advisers. The post is about Wilder's quote regarding Joshua's resume/career and Wilder's delusional fans.