Wilder and Joshua Are Both Flawed

Exactly LOL

Wilder does have very good footwork though, he has somehow danced his way around any half decent challenge.

 

this might seem like a trolling comment, but it's not.

i'm neither a Joshua or Wilder fan; i don't follow the big guys at all, but i do follow all weight classes in the major amateur tournaments

sure, boxing is full of controversial decisions, but Joshua’s run in the 2012 Olympics tournament is an entire textbook on horrible judging.

let's start with his fourth (final) bout against Robert Cammaralle (the 2008 Gold Medalist); the fight ended in a tie; according to Olympic rules, the tie is broken by the third round score, which Joshua won 8 - 5, therefore Joshua wins the Gold.

Cammaralle won the first two rounds by one point each. Olympic boxing is only three rounds, and the nice thing about this is that you can hold the entire fight in your head, which is why i was certain that RC won the third round--he had won the previous two and Rd 3 was clearly his best round (and Joshua’s worst).

What i saw in that third round was Joshua moving away from Cammaralle and tying him up; i don’t think he landed more than three right hands during that round. Every knowledgeable boxing commentator interviewed about this fight was shocked by the result as well.

as bad as that decision was, the judging in Joshua's previous fight was worse. I was astonished to see his hand raised instead of the Kazak’s.

indeed, the small group of expert boxing commentators i follow regularly all believed Joshua lost all four of his fights in the 2012 Olympics. (I can't comment on the first two rights because they weren't televised where i was).

Even The Guardian, the widely regarded newspaper from Joshua’s home country, wrote that

“Joshua was outfoxed and handed a giftwrapped 17-16 decision….” ​

and there, The Guardian was referring to Joshua’s first round match.

 

Wilder is scared that he might lose or look bad vs Whyte, that's the only logical reason why he's pricing himself out. It's a better matchup and far bigger payday than he's had in his career.

 

A thread comparing Joshua with wilder, eh! Lol

Let's see. So, you don't think wilder is a complete fighter, yet?... How many fights and how long should this take then, do you think? Lmao....Saving these improvements until The last fight of his career, is he?
Newsflash... He isn't going to improve this far along into things, he isn't some novice fighter that's just started out.. he should be at peak performance and have a top skill level by now, but he hasn't as he. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but he's a very limited fighter that hasn't improved as a top fighter should have...

In Joshua you have a fighter with half as much experience in a pro ring, yet look at the obvious improvements in Joshua's game in each fight up to now... he's improvimg as a fighter should!

Then have a look at Wilders improvements over his bouts, see any improvement to Wilders game? Nope, you don't...all you see is a very limited fighter, I'm afraid....

Joshua and wilder, not remotely comparable at this moment in time, nice try!

Lol

 

Wilder, 31 years old, 38 professional fight, WBC title holder and he is just learning to throw a hook according to @BlizzyBlizz

If Wilder is still learning to do pretty basic things like throwing a hook this far down the line then there are serious problems.

 

This. Wlad in his prime had a great jab, solid left hook, and solid right hand. However, Wlad is and always was very rigid and hesitates when he can't set things up from his jab and is robotic with limited mobility. This got worse as Wlad got older and was seen in both the Jennings and Fury fights. Both guys had a reach advantage over Wlad, which made his jab less effective and resulted in lots of hesitating on Wlads part.

The only reason Wlad was even competitive with Joshua was because of Joshua's limited mobility and poor stamina. Fury's mobility and reach advantage had Wlad terrified all fight.

Wilder on the other hand has alot of mobility, but he rarely has to use it unless he's fighting someone with power like Stiverne. He also has excellent stamina and a great right hand that he doesn't hesitate to throw. Wlad has a better left hook than Wilder, but other than that Wlad would just hesitate against Wilder like he did against Fury, since Wilder's reach advantage would make it difficult to set anything up.

 

Vlad almost stopped Joshua in their first match and I think he has an excellent chance in the rematch if it happens...........

Joshua does have some flaws, but nothing like Wilder, Wilder should change his name to Flaw, yes, one chicken legged flaw who fights winos from the alley..............

 

I think Wilder is slightly more flawed, but for sure AJ has his flaws too. But that's what makes these guys exciting to watch. I cba with an AJ-Wlad rematch, Wlad will just be older and slower. He's proved his point. I'm all kinds of down for AJ-Wilder

 

Both are flawed, the main difference is that Wilder has major flaws whereas Joshua has minor flaws of which only
an elite fighter could take advantage of, Wilder hasn't shown that he is elite.

Anthony Joshua has far more strengths and better fundamentals than Wilder and it's not even close, i hope this
fight happens as soon as possible then we would all see the huge difference between both of them.

 

They both have flaws, Wilder just has way more.

 

You only need to compare Joshua's performance against Dillian Whyte to his last three performances to see how he has massively improved in every aspect.

Wilder's skills have actually regressed if you compare his performance against Stiverne to his last performance against Washington, he concentrates on his right hand more now than he did a couple years ago, it's his only
weapon.

 

yes they both got flaws.. but wilder has more. sorry its just the way it is. Joshua is the #1 heavyweight right now end of discussion. and this is coming from a joseph parker fan.