Wilder Beating Parker Would Be One Of Wilders Best Wins No ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dynamicpuncher, Nov 15, 2023.


Who wins this

  1. Parker by his experience

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    25.9%
  2. Wilder by his KO instincts

    20 vote(s)
    74.1%
  1. Supahero

    Supahero New Member Full Member

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    Too bad Fury's body language doesn't even agree with you :

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    No wonder he cancelled the post fight conference.
     
  2. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Possibly but Ortiz can't take a pop on the whiskers from a legit banger and his head is a magnet for right hands

    He's also got slow feet

    Conversely, J-Park has a very stout set of whiskers and he moves pretty well

    I'd rank The Dosser as Belly's second best win
     
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  4. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    I think Parker is on the same level of a prime Bermane Stiverne.
     
  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder rarely trades with anyone. Parker also usually prefers not to.

    Wilder just bides his time and then strikes when the opportunity arises.
     
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  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On paper. And although i like Parker and dislike the delusional overhyped wilder, he probably will knock him out.
    Parker has lost alot of his footspeed and his style(specifically the side where he leans his head, which is to his right) puts him right in the line of a straight right hand especially of an explosive puncher with long reach.
    Parker leaning to the right so much from the outside will be his undoing.

    Fury also dipped alot against wilder but he timed it better and stepped in and smothered with it(similar to how holyfield tried to nullify tysons right hand) and wilder still ended up catching him in the 12th
    But parker does it from too far outside and lingers there. He'll get iced im afraid.
     
  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    TBH I'm basing Ortiz quality on the fact that he went life and death with Wilder in the first fight. Besides Fury, no one has come close to beating Wilder.

    So 2018 Ortiz proved himself on a similar level to Wilder in 2018. Wilder is past his physical prime, and is 37 years old now.

    If Parker is KO'd in early rounds by this version of wilder, logic would dictate that 2018 Ortiz > 2023 Parker. It depends on how much Parker hurts Wilder.

    Parker has 0 defence, he' just stands in the firing line. He lost vs Whyte and arguably lost vs Chisora in the first fight.
     
  8. Haviton

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    Parker experience:
    • Whyte
    • Joshua
    • Ruiz
    • Takam
    • Chisora x2
    • Joyce
    • Hrgovic, Zhang, Yoka (Amateur)
    versus

    Wilder experience
    • Fury
    • Ortiz
     
  9. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    FFS you could make the same argument for Chisora. Chisora's resume is more stacked than anyone but it doesn't matter if he ****ing loses all the time.

    Experience? Experience losing? LOL.

    Wilder has proven himself a threat to the bigger opponents, Parker has not. He was easily UD'd by AJ, UD'd by Whyte, arguably 1-1 vs Chisora, brutally KO'd by Joyce, and arguably robbed Ruiz.
     
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  10. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    This should end with a Wilder victory via knockout, pretty early.

    Parker gets hit flush a lot, Wilder doesn't. I can't see Parker making the 6th round.
     
  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    So you're rating Ortiz highly on the basis that you rate Wilder highly... When Ortiz is his best win.

    That's called circular logic - it's fallacious thinking.

    All Wilder going life and death with Ortiz tells you is, styles make fights aside, Wilder's level isn't much higher than Ortiz.

    The reason this is difficult is neither of them have done much else.
     
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  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This might have meaning if Wilder actually fought better comp. Hell, no one was able to beat Brian Neilsen for near 50 fights, sure as f*ck didn't make him Rocky Marciano.

    Level of opponents matter greatly. And Wilder's resume is just terrible.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All those opponents you brought up though Wilder has never fought, and Whyte was Wilder's mandatory for a long time and he didn't fight him.

    Yes Parker has a few more losses but he also has wins over the likes of Ruiz who beat Ortiz who is Wilder's best win.

    If Wilder fought everyone Parker has he could've ended up with a few more losses aswell who knows.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Next month, Wilder will have more fights (FOUR) against the current Ring top five than ANY other top contender.

    He's fought Tyson Fury three times, floored him four times, and successfully defended his title against him in fight one.

    Next month, with the Parker fight, Wilder will have competed in FOUR FIGHTS with the current Ring Top five.

    Let me say that again for those who are slow ... Four fights with the current top five.

    And Wilder's supposed to fight Joshua (also in the top five) after Parker (unless Joshua needs a FOURTH tuneup.)

    I think some of you guys are on auto pilot. You just regurgitate the same crap over and over, year after year, regardless of who someone fights.
     
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  15. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ortiz first fight probably beats Parker but I'd say it's his 3rd best opponent behind Fury & Ortiz.. Stiverne is his 4th best opponent imo.. we all know wilder's resume is s***.. but there's still a reason he's favourite in this fight, so it's not just about resumes is it..