Wilder dared to be great, Canelo did not

Wilder was still the favourite going into Fury II. Everyone saw Fury as being unable to hurt Wilder. They were expecting the weak Fury they saw in the first fight, the ones picking Fury expected him to outpoint. Lets not forget the “They have to be perfect for 36 minutes, I only need 2 seconds”. It was a small risk for Wilder when you take into consideration how easy buying the judges is.

Wilder obviously had heart and would fight anyone, but he didn’t. His career was carefully managed.

 

Canelo is 1000 levels above Deontay

 

The issue was Wilder was deluded and surrounded by people telling him that he lost because his costume was too heavy. Fury had anvils in his gloves / cheated etc. So he went into the rematches because of these excuses and the delusion that his power (never tested against anyone elite) would get him out of trouble. This false paradigm then elevated Fury's chin that beforehand was seen as average.
This is why fans of Fury and Wilder have to inflate the other fighter. It's just the way it is but it is transparent. They also then have to put Joshua down for it to stick.

 

Wilder sucks and basically so do you.

 

Yes but you're using hindsight and ignoring all the excuse making after the 2nd fight.
In Wilder's below average brain he did not lose that fight because Fury cheated....so the rematch wasn't him accepting the previous defeat but the beief that he would clip Fury which turned out to be incorrect despite Fury making an absolute meal out of the third fight.
Props to both men in the third fight as both had to dig deep. The fact is Fury should have beaten Wilder quicker than the 2nd fight but looked in very poor shape.

 

You’re either not reading or purposely misinterpreting plain english in text. I don’t want to repeat myself anymore, I’ll just end with: Wilder fighting Fury was never about daring to be great, at no point in his career in fact as he avoided most of the top 10, before drawing, then losing to a guy they pulled out of retirement. It was karmic justice more than anything.

If Wilder was daring to be great he’d have been cleaning up the division.

 

After their 2nd fight, Wilder would have been forgiven if he took some confidence boosters like Stiverne or Breazale and then going up and taking on the likes of Chisora or Whyte but no, he wanted a rematch with the man who beat him down brutally. If Wilder was smart, he would have retired because virtually noone comes back from a beating like that at his age. Does he ****, he comes back and showed his heart, and somewhat improved technique. He dared to be great and fell, but he dared.

 

I don't disagree too much I just don't believe Wilder had that self awareness at the time. He still believed that he could win by clipping Fury which to be fair he wasn't that far off. It doesn't really matter whether Fury is the more rounded boxer as that had not mattered before for Wilder as his power dug him out of trouble. despite him being out boxed on many occasions.
Wilder only ever needed 1 haymaker to finish it''s just Fury had good recovery powers and wouldn't stay down.

 

Wilder had nothing to lose at that point. Losing to someone once is not that much better then twice.

 

You should be careful with this logic that can be applied to just about every fighter in multiple situations. I suppose they are all daring to be great to some extent thinking like that. Custio Clayton just dared to be great by taking the fight against the publics perceived murder machine in Jaron Ennis. Wilder just wanted his revenge. And Haymon was happy to oblige at his opportunity to get his only belt back.

I’ll tell you why Wilder wasn’t daring to be great, because he wasn’t the one extending himself, if anything he was daring to get something he’d lost. Daring to be great is exactly the opposite of TS’s thread title. Canelo moved up for no reason at all, no reason EXCEPT to be great. Wilder took a cherrypick and then was rectifying a draw, rectifying a loss.