Wilder desperate to fight fury next doenst want him to get more fighting fit lol

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Ive seen some articles claiming this as well. Didnt open them to see the basis of the rumors though.
     
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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At no point did I claim anybody else dropped Fury 'THE EXACT SAME WAY' Wilder dropped Fury. I challenge you to find where I posted such a statement.

    My point was that if not only a feather fist, but a feather fist at cruiser weight in Steve Cunningham is able to even drop Tyson Fury at all with a single shot (not a combination), then this exposes Fury's durability to so suspect, that it is ABSOLUTELY EXPECTED for any prime top power puncher, much less the most powerful puncher in boxing today (which is what many consider Wilder to be) to go multiple steps further (not just one step further) and actually KO Fury unconscious, to the point where Fury is unable to get back up at all and continue fighting the way he did.

    That Wilder could not do this, is a testament to his power being overrated and lacking. Wilder only dropped Fury once legitimately and that was in the 12th round. The first knockdown was an illegal one from a rabbit punch.

    If you don't expect Wilder to KO someone who is as suspect in durability as Fury, then you must hold Wilder to such a horribly low standard in punching power (and that's absolutely fine by me).

    Also, if someone is unconscious, they continue to show signs of concussion for a long time after getting knocked out unconscious. Fury showed, anything but any signs of concussion after he got back up when he stunned and out-landed Wilder in the remainder of the 12th round. A person who was just unconscious, isn't able to do such a thing, merely seconds after getting back up to their feet. That alone, pretty much debunks your entire argument of Fury being unconscious.
     
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  3. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I heard you suck dick!
     
  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Why didn't Wladimir knock down Fury if he's so suspect?

    What other times was Fury knocked down? A flash knock down doesn't mean he's suspect, or we to argue Ruiz Jr has got a suspect chin because AJ knocked him down for the first time in his career?

    Fury was down and out, the ref, Fury, and his wife, can attest to that.

    Yet you seem to believe you know Fury's bodily state better than he and know more than the ref who was standing right next to his unconscious body

    I've already stated why Wilder's power was unlikely not as potent as usual. Notably the fact he was giving up nearly 4 stone in weight against a giant of a man.

    Was Haye's power questionable all of sudden because he didnt take down Valuev? The most he could do was wobble him

    Lastly you need to watch the 12th round again, because Fury didn't immediately start firing back, Wilder went for the finish and Fury was holding on for dear life doing his utmost to spoil and survive.

    So don't try and rewrite history and create another false narrative, fury wasn't immediately back up on his feet firing on all cylinders. He was given a chance to walk off the hurt, and can get his senses back with the referee contravening boxing rules giving him extra time to recover which he benefited.

    Had the ref instructed Fury to immediately resume the action, Fury would have been completely defenseless. The jog around the ring did wonders for recovery.

    This is why in the rematch, with Wilder bulkier, an impartial ref, Fury isn't getting back up, or if he does, he gets finished off very fast.
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Too late

    Fury has reached a decent level of fitness now

    The whole of 2018 he spent losing weight

    He spent the past 6 months of 2019 recovering and gaining his strength to normal levels.

    He will destroy Wilder in a rematch.
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    WILDER COULDN'T STOP A 60% FURY AFTER DROPPING HIM UNCONSCIOUS IN ROUND 12 LOL!

    You are delusional.

    Wilder is the one getting stopped in the rematch.

    WILDER OLNY FOUGHT FURY BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS CATCHING HIM AT A GOOD TIME, THESE ARE THE FACTS

    DOSSER

    You think the ref helped only Fury? Yeah say the same thing when there isn't a ref who constantly brekas nad lets Fury destory Wilder on the inside and wrestle him in the clinches because he has the strength to do so, A fury who can be offensive and use his feet because he has his fitness back

    Y'all don't know wtf is about to hit you, wilder and his supporters are delusional.

    I promise you Fury is knocking that dosser out in a rematch.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All your examples are a straw-man. Wladimir Klitschko was shot to pieces at age 39, unlike Wilder who was in his prime. I'd forgive Wilder too if he was 40 years old or close to.

    Nikolai Valuev has a certified granite chin. Never been dropped in his life before, so not comparable to a suspect chinned Fury whatsoever. I'd forgive Wilder if he failed to KO someone with the durability of Nikolai Valuev (E.G. Mariusz Wach).

    Andy Ruiz Jr was dropped by Anthony Joshua. An actual certified knockout artist with a +90% knockout record at heavyweight. I could forgive someone getting dropped by an actual puncher. Once again, not at all comparable to Fury getting dropped by two guys who's punching power lies below 50%.

    Your weight excuse doesn't apply, for the simple reason that not just one, but two other guys who aren't even close to being considered the biggest punchers in boxing, dropped Fury with single shots. And they were no bigger than your beloved Wilder.

    So I'm sorry if I expected a lot more from Wilder, than what much inferior journeymen / feather-fists managed against suspect chinned Fury. Wilder essentially did only one step better than what those feather-fists / journeymen managed against Fury, and that against an inferior version of Fury. All this proves is Wilder is only slightly better than the likes of Cunningham.

    Fury has been dropped not once, but twice by non-punchers. The other one was from a guy named Nevan Pjakic. So those weren't just 'flash knockdowns' as you like to call them.

    The only person that's rewriting history is you. Fury was totally fine and got back up fine. One doesn't go from being unconscious, then being able to throw accurate punches in combinations within the same minute. A person that was genuinely unconscious, would show signs of concussions for a much longer time, so much to the point where they'd even forget what they were doing, much less being able to box and throw accurate combos the way Fury was.

    The evidence doesn't seem to suggest Fury was at all unconscious. It's you who are imagining this.

    Let Wilder come out of his beloved USA and actually fight outside the comfort of his country, then we'll see what he's truly made of. Until then, he is a paper American champion.

    Funny how you Wilder fanatics like to claim Fury got so much time to recover, when Wilder literally was getting a minute to recover against Luis Ortiz. Or are we going to somehow ignore this fact now? I'm not! So either way, it's karma. Otherwise, Wilder wouldn't even be fighting Fury today and would've been knocked out By Luis Ortiz
     
  8. BCS8

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    I would LMFAO if Fury has a VPN and multiple accounts on here spamming his greatness. It seems like just the thing he might do in between sparring and eating hedgehogs.