Wilder did improve quite a bit .

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Im not saying he is floyd mayweather .

    Im just saying . his technique did improve quite a bit . he didn't fight ortiz wreckless and start throwing bombs the way he did in his other fights. He was more cautious this time and approached ortiz being cautious and used his jab more .

    He threw the right hand when he thought it made sense .

    Even though i had him losing all the rounds before the knockout the improvement is there.

    He finished off ortiz in with one right hand this time .

    Last time it took 2 or 3 knockdowns i can't remember .

    But he did look slower this time. Being 219. I don't think he should bulk up that much this time around. I think he was fine at 209-212. Just use the same approach he used with this ortiz fight.

    Not saying he will beat fury that way.

    Just saying if he stays low in weight and dosent throw to many punches he can time fury better. The less punches he throws the less fury will see that right hand coming and catching fury clean .

    Wilder in my opinon should stay light. Fury is reportedly coming in heavier for this fight . meaning fury will be slower on his feet . Wilder should stay light and fast ans power ful for that version of fury.

    Even with all that said. I still favor fury to win
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But if he lost all the rounds to Ortiz, then what is Fury, a masterclass boxer, going to do to him?

    Wilder may have been better with his punch selection and timing, but he doesn't have the fundamental footwork, head movement, etc. Windmilling may even be the better strategy for him. the basics just aren't there.
     
  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Improving his right hand and timing is what best works for him that is his strategy the right hand landed on fury twice before it can land again . however this time he needs to land it cleaner and more effective . if fury gets up from that right hand again this time . Wilder is screwed! Lol
     
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  4. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think is Wilder stays patient and only throws a couple punches a round he has a better chance of beating Fury. Imagine how frustrated Fury will get when Wilder gives him nothing to counter. Fury will get sloppy and open up.
     
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  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I agree in the same token however if fury manages to find his way in because wilder isnt firing back. Then as the face goes on furys punches could do damage over the rounds and fury could get a stoppage late.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson Fury isn't stopping Deontay Wilder.

    Tyson Fury was bleeding badly and needed to stop Otto Wallin, and the super fit, super conditioned, super sharp Fury couldn't even do that.

    Luckily for Fury, his cutman saved him.

    Where on earth did any of you get the idea Fury was going to stop Wilder?

    It's hilariously absurd.

    Wilder's going to flatten Fury. And walk out the Ring Champion.

    Wilder fought arguably his worst fight as champion, and Fury fought arguably the best fight of his whole career, and Fury still couldn't beat him.

    Now you think Fury's going to knock him out?

    Christ. (LOL)
     
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  7. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I never said its certain . i said over time as the fight goes furys punches could do damage to wilder forcing a stoppage over 10-11 rounds from getting hit to much. It is possible. Whether it will happen who knows.

    By the way why do you bring otto ? I don't get it ? By you bringing up otto it makes wilder look bad .

    Otto was able to cut fury and give him a tough close scary fight .

    But wilder couldn't keep him down nor cut fury .

    Jesus lol . styles make fights just cuz otto could do it. Don't mean wilder can .

    Had you said usyk can do it. I would believe you .

    But wilder dosent have any of the tools otto has lol
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder doesn't have any of the tools of Otto Wallin?

    Whatever you're smoking, put it out and go to bed.

    That might be the single dumbest sentence posted on this site this week.

    Tyson Fury isn't stopping Deontay Wilder. Otto Wallin isn't better than Deontay Wilder. You're embarrassing yourself. Go to bed.
     
  9. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Lol chill thats Why its difficult to like fury or wilder you fanboys make it difficult
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fanboy blah blah blah.

    Fury isn't knocking out Wilder. Otto Wallin isn't better than Wilder. Everything you're thinking right now is wrong. Turn off your computer and go to bed.
     
  11. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    The only "improvement" wilder has made is doing less than ever and waiting more patiently for an opening to land his one trick pony right hand.

    It comes across as "Improvement" because he's not throwing silly looking windmills as much over his past few fights.

    He still only has a punchers chance. But boy What a punch it is at times, I'll give him that, but really.. Just standing there looking for an opening round after round with not much else about your game does nothing for me as a boxing fan or boxing as an whole.
     
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  12. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Whyte whos a bigger puncher didnt stop chisora the first fight

    Vitali whos a bigger puncher didnt stop chisora

    Povetkin whos a bigger puncher didnt hammer

    Ortiz whos a bigger puncher didnt stop hammer

    Yet fury stopped both of those .

    Like i said its not certain fury will stop wilder . but it is possible over an accumulation of shots from wilder taking punishment.

    Never said otto was better than wilder .

    However otto has a great style to give fury trouble as does usyk .

    You are offering no debate at all
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When it comes to Wilder, I think some of you guys just forget everything you ever learned about boxing.

    Luis Ortiz is a southpaw. It's difficult to fight southpaws. You throw lead right hands against southpaws. Two of Wilder's last fought fights came against Ortiz. He didn't jab much. He waited and looked for lead right hands against Ortiz.

    Against Breazeale, an orthodox fighter, he didn't do that. Right? Instead, he jabbed and threw right hands, and took Breazeale out in a round.

    Fury is a switch hitter. Sometimes he fights righty. Sometimes southpaw. He's tricky. But, when he fights righty, that's when Wilder can score.

    Don't expect Wilder to fight Fury like he did Ortiz.

    If Fury was smart, he'd spend the whole fight against Wilder as a southpaw. In the orthdox stance, Wilder will finish what he started in the 12th round of their last fight.
     
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  14. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Yeh, fight as a southpaw so wilder can open that eye..

    Great plan.. Lol
     
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  15. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Lol otto was a southpaw as well .

    I likr how you use the style to justify wilders problems with ortiz being a southpaw

    But dismiss it for fury.

    Contradicting yourself
     
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