Wilder excuses already started, when was Wilder Prime exactly?

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Literally the tile, as i'm so tired of all this biased fanboys on here, excusing every single loss, on a fighter being out of his prime, not in shape, not train properly, aka everything to not give credits, where credits it's due, aka to Parker, his hard work done, to hos coach, to the great work they have done improving Parker and coming with a great gameplan that literally destroys everything Wilder ever has > the right hand.

    So explain me Wilder fanboys when was the Wilder prime, and what attributes is shots to shits in him, that you are so bragging about?
     
  2. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    He was always elite in punching power but not very good in anything else. Dangerous man with freakish power and big heart, but very limited and one-dimensional
     
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    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    That suit and crown looked real heavy doe
     
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    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are there any Wilder fanboys on here?
     
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    IMO Wilder's prime is between Bermane Stiverne 2 and Luis Ortiz 2.

    Two years. Wilder's 10 title defenses show that something is wrong with the heavyweight division. It's possible that something has been wrong with the heavyweight division for much longer than the "Wilder case".
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All Wilder ever was is a glorified contender. He'll be remembered for a long, but unimpressive reign followed by a couple valiant performances against Fury. He has no good wins, has never beaten an elite fighter, and is essentially a more consistent Razor Rudduck.
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So he was in his prime when he was outboxed by a complete bum in Molina, and Molina had him on wobbly legs, Molina literally could have ended Wilder in there, if he was just a bit better.
    It took Wilder 9 rounds to beat Molina btw.
    You are telling me this is the prime Wilder?
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    How is he any different than the one that faced Parker, i'm listening.

    Or maybe when he fight Johann Duhaupas ? And was in a War, and couldn't even drop Duhapas once? Same guy Povetkin took head off in 6 rounds. It took Wilder 11 to get the ref stoppage, without Duhapas hit the canvas even once.

    Or maybe he peaked against Artur Szpilka ? He was outboxed 9 rounds, until he KO f***** bum Szpilka

    Or Ortiz 1? Where he was beaten badly 10 rounds, and needed comission/referee help, as they give him a break after he was hurt badly in the previous round. Or when he rabbit punches Ortiz to dead?
    The same 38(he was prolly 48 in real age) Ortiz ? So Ortiz was in his prime at 38, but somehow WIlder it is not? H? Did i smell double standard?
    Or maybe where he lost to the 20 pounds costume in Fury 2? His trainer spiked his water, gloves conspiracy, etc, etc?
    Or Fury 3, where he had cardio for 1 round, and it was gone after throwing 5 jabs to the body. Where there was no movement at all from Wilder, his speed was nowhere to be seen, and he looks as clumsy as always?

    Pls Wilder fans help me find his true peak. :D
     
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  8. BlackDog

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    Wilder has always been a limited boxer. If I had to describe his style in one phrase, it would be trebuchet. Or a tall, constantly tense spring waiting to fire with incredible energy. Especially in recent years, he has focused a lot on looking for just that one golden shot. This worked to a certain extent. What's more, slower, static opponents with poor reflexes made the guy look like a million dollars. But unfortunately for him, not everyone can be defeated in this way. People who think that the guy has aged extremely well should watch the second fight with Ortiz again. Was Wilder very different there? NO. He also shot little and was looking for his golden shot, giving the field to the opponent. The only difference is that Ortiz was older, had a weaker jaw and reflexes, and was fooled and hit. Wilder's biggest disaster is that, given such conditions, he never learned how to use the jabu and actively work with it. Probably because of what I mentioned - it's hard to work with your front hand when you're as tense as a double bass string for that one hell of a shot. And this is pure stupidity, because he should have beaten Parker with his left all evening and stopped his attempts because Parker's legs weren't super fast yesterday. Overall, Wilder is a good, maybe very good boxer who definitely has his place in history. As long as the world exists, people will remember his punching power. There was a lack of faith in its capabilities and in developing it by raising the bar at the right time. So much.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah buddy, Wilder Prime time:
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    Just to clarify i'm not the guy posted this pic.
     
  10. From.Russia

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    Wilder is a certified overhyped amerobum with padded record and not a lot you can do about it.
     
  11. The Clan

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    10 title defences against who though?
    After winning the belt from Stiverne his 10 fights were
    Molina
    Duhaupas
    Szpilka
    Arreola
    Washington
    Stiverne 2
    Ortiz
    Fury
    Breazeale
    Ortiz 2

    Not one of them any good including Fury (at the time he fought him)
    only Fury and Ortiz inside the top 10 and most were ranked mid 20s even mid 30s
     
  12. It's Ovah

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    Hard to say when Wilder's prime was as he's always more or less fought in the same way, and I don't see much diminution of his speed, stamina or power to be honest, even after last night.

    If anyone is past prime I'd actually say it's Parker. He's nowhere near as explosive as he once was.
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think WIlder will soon himself comes out of the shadow, and claims once again they robbed him. This time it was the Saudis that set him up. They were protecting the golden egg Joshua, and that's why they make his costume extremely heavy. It was 2.5 pounds instead of being 2 pounds only, and the crown that he was wearing coming to the ring was way too heavy at 1.2 pounds, as it should have been just 1 pounds + it drain his brain away.
    On top of that for extra safety they remove the padding out of Parker gloves, and put extra pillows into WIlder's one, to make his nickname Dr. Sleep more relevant.

    Just be ready for it, Wilder will swing in a full force very soon. You heard it here first.
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah and let's not forget he had a War with Chisora 1, was dropped twice by Whyte(one time by a headbutt, and Parker should have won that fight fair and square), and he was pick to pieces by Joyce and brutally stops.

    So people trying to excuse Wilder, and his beating from Fury, oh just stops. We all know Fury is featherfisted anyway.
     
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  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    IMHO Bermane Stiverne should not have been champion at all when Wlad and many others were in the game.
     
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