Wilder excuses already started, when was Wilder Prime exactly?

Age and in activity was definitely a factor, that for me cannot be denied. Now Wilder is no longer at his physical best, I don’t think he can compete at world level. However I will say Parker exposed his complete lack of basic fundamentals and ring IQ in a way that I thought even at this stage was alarming. Guys like Foreman who still relied heavily on physicality were able to compete much longer than Deontay despite also being in several wars.

I guess what I’m saying is you are correct, but I think it was as much to do with the massive flaws in Wilder’s game, his lack of experience fighting top level heavyweights consistently, and Parker’s excellent game plan. Had Wilder been at his peak he would have still struggled imo, and even if he won (which I would lean towards) it would have been a very tough fight.

 

Exactly, although heavyweights last longer athletic guys like Wilder age quicker. Still given he lost 12-0 and was completely and utterly outclassed, I maintain Parker’s ability and Wilder’s lack of fundamentals were also key. If Parker fought a peak Wilder I think it would have been very close. I can’t support people claiming Wilder would have sparked him quickly.

 

Get the **** out of here with the AJ excuses. Joyce was 39 years old when he demolish Parker.
Zhang was what ? 40 Years old when he demolish Joyce.

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This guy expose WIlder for what he truly always was. One big fraud with no skills.

The guy was throwing Hammer punches against Parker, this ain't due to age, this is due to lacking any Boxing Skills and being a fraud. Him and Scott. Both are frauds that talk big game, but can't deliver.

I stand by my words. Show me any difference in Wilder fight against Helenius and this one. He try to conduct this fight the same way as the Helenius one.
Wilder didn't lose because of his age, but because he always was a fraud. He doesn't know what technique is, he doesn't know what jab is, and he surely doesn't know what strategy/tactics is. His Ring IQ is below zero.
You can beat C and D level truck drivers, and your pals that took dives for you, but the moment you step into competition you are level is going to be found, and we saw it on 23th.

Told you all the way this guy was a fraud. From the very beginning.

Let that sink IN hard, the guy that Wilder ducked for Unification fight, and WIlder claims Parker ducked him, annihilate that fraud.
All of you that are now crying how WIlder is past his best suddenly didn't gave Parker any chance. And you are now with your silly excuses still refusing to give Parker his dues.
He destroys that Fraud 12-0. Wilder couldn't land a single shot on him for whole 12 rounds.

There is levels to this, as we found out with Wilder and Wallins.
This guy was never any good, that's why he has ducked all of the good fighters his entire career.

 

Wasn't Muhammad Ali also 38 when he lost to Holmes?

 

And unironically Holmes was 38 when he lost to Mike Tyson. This is the nature of life.

 

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And Ortiz was declined as well. A big reason as to why Wilder did (but didn't really look) better against him.

So by all means bring Wilders age into the equation, but also that he looked very similar against Ortiz who was even older. He managed to land against Ortiz and not Parker, but Ortiz age could be the key to that rather than Wilder's.

 

How old was Holmes when he beat Ray Mercer? How old was he when he took Holyfield the distance?
Fighters do lose a little when they age but let's not forget Wilder started boxing late so should have more left in his tank than his peers who has been fighters most of their lives. As Lord losh has stated over and over again, most people just assumed Wilder would stop Parker in a few rounds and never factored in any of the excuses they are now using.

Wlad lost to fury but wasnt shut out like wilder was on Saturday and Wlad made improvements in the Joshua fight and actually looked better than he had looked for some time, George foreman comes to mind as a fighter able to hold his own against younger fighters! Wilder was/is just a one trick pony and when he's up against intelligent skilled opponents he lacks the boxing iq, skills to adjust in order to create openings in order for his one trick to work. The fact he managed to drop Fury multiple times shows where Fury is really at however both fury fans and wilder fans seem to have a gentlemen's agreement to exaggerate their fighters ability and accomplishments to make each other look better.

The fact is Wilder was never all that good to begin and when ever he's fought anyone half decent he lost, he really should have lost to Ortiz too but was gifted extra recovery time when Ortiz had him out on his feet.

 

You unironically make these comparisons?

Have a look at the average age of the top 10 plus the champion in 1980 and 1988 and then compare it to today's.

Also look at prime Ali compared to the version against Holmes and then Wilder against Ortiz and Fury compared to today's version and see if you see the same changes.

 

Very good post
Sense on a senseless site

 

There's still a few sensible posters left on here

 

Why are you surprised by his gloating? He's absolutely obsessed and infatuated with Joshua. Never in all my time on forums have I seen a poster so obsessed with a fighter.

 

Wilder was never any good. You people need to stop taking fentanyl and see reality for what It is.

 

@miniq is much more infatuated with Tyson Fury, and doesn't deny it.

 

That's the thing, tho. A dedicated Joshua fan should be disappointed by Wilder's defeat, because he should have wanted to see a huge Joshua/Wilder matchup.

I can't imagine wanting to see a big fight derailed that way, especially if I were a big fan of one of the fighters. His posts come across like he's more of a Wilder hater than a Joshua fan. It's weird.