Wilder/Fury or Joshua/Povetkin ...which is the MEGA Fight ???

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol that’s about right.
     
  2. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, Wilder Vs Fury should be described as..

    The universally second rated Heavyweight on the planet with a solitary and devalued belt, who's best win is an old man with a heart condition Vs A man who has been inactive for the best part of 3 years who has abused his body with alcohol, food and drugs and has mental health issues, who's best win was described by Wilder fans "a joke".


    Wilder fans have short memories, most desecrated Klitschko's performance against Fury as "terrible" said Klitschko looked "completely shot" and was "old"... now it's a great win, the turn around is truly embarrassing.


    Now that's more realistic than your five knuckle shuffle over a fight that hasn't even been confirmed yet.
     
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  3. PolishNavy

    PolishNavy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Do you realize that there was only 1 black man in all of Scotland and Big Country managed to get him to play bass guitar for them???

    NEVER underestimate a Scotsman
     
  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Another poster described the whole affair quite aptly which I will re-post

    ''matchroom is a circus, the commentary and punditry is comical, its wwe. their fighters are fighting low risk high reward fights wherever possible. that's good for them no doubt, its not good for the fans or the sport unless you enjoy gossip columns rather than meaningful fights''

    That's not even taking into account the cheesy repetitive pub songs, the football chants, the paid off over protective refs who are strict with the away fighter, yet so lenient with the home fighter that they can blatantly headbutt and attempt to throw their opponent over the turnbuckle without any warning.

    I've never seen a ref physically help a fighter up off the floor after they've been knocked down. There was even a moment in one of the fights last weekened where the action was taking place and then someone jumped on the apron and the ref stopped the action so he could turn around and approach the guy.

    That is exactly what happens in the WWE, where the ref gets distracted. What's funny is that I made a joke about that happening many times and what do you know it appears on a matchroom show.
     
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  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    We just don't know, if Wilder/Fury is made then it will be PPV and we just don't know what Wilder will do in the US.

    If it doesn't do AJ numbers in a country of that size then Hearn will be justified in every he has said and offered.

    If it does good numbers then Hearn was wrong and will have to admit as much.


    Purses will be interesting, Wilder was offered 8 million for Whyte, 15 million for AJ and turned both down.

    If he is paid a dollar less than 15 million then he is fair game for ridicule.
     
  6. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not at all, I'd love to see Wilder vs Fury but I doubt very much it will happen. Just as i long ago (you can probably find the post) said i'd respect Wilder if he actually fought Povetkin, which ofc didnt happen either and neither will this fight i believe.

    Anyway if the miracle happen and Wilder actually fight Fury then I'd consider that fight more important than Joshua vs Povetkin. That doesnt mean I think its overall the 2 better boxers right now fighting in that fight

    Wilder fighting any of these 5 guys is very unlikely imo, since he doesnt want to risk diminishing his cash out against Joshua by losing:

    Povetkin (he might fight him if Povetkin gets COMPLETELY trashed against Joshua though)
    Fury (unless if Fury look even more **** than in his comeback fight)
    Whyte
    Parker
    Miller
     
  7. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Neither are mega fights.
     
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  8. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    For me personally I'm more interested in fury-wilder
     
  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Now that IS PPV worthy.
     
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  10. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :dunno
     
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  11. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Any fight that involves two of the three kings fighting each other is the mega fight.
     
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  12. Okin129

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    Wilder vs Fury is much more exciting, Joshua vs Povetkin is not a megafight.
     
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  13. 305th

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    This needs reposting. Bang on.
     
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  14. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Depends which way you mean it, which one with big the biggest money making fight or which one is the most meaningful and has most impact on this division.

    If its the money then Joshua v Povetkin is the bigger fight, Wilder Fury would be in America and nobody cares about Tyson Fury in America. Actually nobody cares about Wilder either. We know that Joshua fights break records in the UK, this one wont be any different.

    But if it is about magnitude and impact on the division then its still Joshua v Povetkin anyway. Joshua is seen as number 1 in the division whether you like that or not, Povetkin number 3. They will be fighting for 3 of the 4 belts infront of 90'000plus. Wilder is fighting the lineal champion and has the WBC belt. This fight carries magnitude but considering what Fury has been going through and his serious lack of fighting and fitness it takes a fair bit of shine off it.
     
  15. N17

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    Whoever wrote that is just bias, blinkered and has an agenda..

    Matchroom and Sky are two different things, you can't blame Hearn for Sky's commentary, I believe the commentary is p*** poor, it's insulting at times but you can't blame Hearn/Matchroom for that.

    Message Sky, they got rid of Nick Halling and Jim Watt was retired off after years of British boxing fans complaining about the standard of commentary. Has it got better? Not really but again, that's Sky's decision to put these people on the air.

    Low risk high reward whenever possible? Rubbish, have a look at some of the fights some of the novices have, the likes of Josh Kelly, Joshua Buatsi and compare it to competitors like Yarde, if you want to criticise Hearn for poor opposition then you have to criticise every promoter in the world.

    Just this weekend.. Whyte Vs Parker was high risk for Whyte, Chisora Vs Takam was high risk for Chisora. So that's a load of cobblers.

    The chanting and pub songs is to create an atmosphere, it's not my idea of a good time but go and listen to the noise when Chisora was fighting on Saturday, when Whyte was fighting Saturday, I'd rather being there than in Germany or the US where the noise is library level.

    Also it's called "support", British boxing fans are by far the best in the world, it's not even a debate, we are the most loyal and travel all over the world, if we want to sing terrible songs and chant then so be it, get another lot of rival fans to try and out sing us, it won't happen so stop cryin get about it.

    Protective referees? Like every other country and every other home promoters cards? Shall we talk about referees in Mayweather fights? Wilder getting walked to a corner at the start of a round after being battered the round previous? Giving him valuable time to recover?

    I could reel off plenty of examples of generous refereeing in the US for example, if you want more examples I'll give you them.

    Whoever wrote that is making it sound like it only happens on Matchroom cards, I could give example after example of refereeing performances that boarder on criminal, judging that makes the UK look amazing.. "Byrd 118-110" in very high profile fights in front of the world.

    If you're going to hammer Hearn, Matchroom, Sky, Joshua and whoever else.. DAZN in a few months then at least be fair, honest and admit it happens everywhere and it's a problem in boxing in general and not just the UK and with Matchroom and Sky.